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The result was speedy keep. withdrawn by norminator, no vote for delete (non-admin closure) Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 00:06, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hair tie[edit]

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No claim of notability. No sources. I cannot find WP:SIGCOV. Tacyarg (talk) 17:16, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep A widespread fashion accessory. ("The item that ultimately convicted Murdoch was a small, non-descript everyday item, an elastic hair-tie." [1]) Worthwhile sources will of course be swamped in search results by product catalogs and clickbait, but that's to be expected. XOR'easter (talk) 17:29, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. XOR'easter (talk) 17:36, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 18:37, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 18:37, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in it's current form, it does seem to run afoul of the GNG, but that being said probably 50% of living Americans have used or will use one of these at some point in their lives, so I'm going to call it notable. Article needs a lot of work, though. - Scarpy (talk) 23:28, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Creation Source is a nice bit on them. Given that the current situation is tracking down a detailed bit just on hair ties because there are literally thousands of articles talking about their usage. There's a mix of style, and even some significant pieces on odd bits like Hair Tie causes illness?. Even as someone who hates WP:IAR in AfDs, if it is needed here I gladly suggest it, but I don't think it's needed. Nosebagbear (talk)

However some discussion should probably take place about this and Scrunchie. They obviously are functionally the same thing, with most mentions actually flipping between both names in an article. I have absolutely no idea which one is more common. Nor would I be surprised to find out, for example, that scrunchies are a specific variant group. In any case, with such a complicated potential merge case, I would not advise having it out here. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:32, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:GNG, or merge as sugggested. Functionally, they work similarly, but my students use the words to mean different objects. Bearian (talk) 15:20, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw AfD nomination - this looks much better now and I am withdrawing the nomination. Thanks for working on it, and I'm sorry I didn't find these references.Tacyarg (talk) 20:29, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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