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The result was delete. JForget 00:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hamish Lewis[edit]

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Article of non-notable footballer. Fails notability criteria for footballers per NSPORTS as amateur and not international rep. Coverage is general sports journalism of general nature of type expected for general local sports persons ClubOranje^T 09:10, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 18:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete, Stuff.co.nz has nine articles with a trivial mention, doesn't yet meet GNG or ATHLETE. XLerate (talk) 01:58, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I'm not sure if Mainland Premier League counts as a Fully professional league so I've asked on WikiProject Football.  Chzz  ►  17:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC) (Struck - it does not; see below  Chzz  ►  22:57, 7 August 2010 (UTC))[reply]

• resp: Mainland Premier League is not even the top level domestic league. Soccer_in_New_Zealand#Professional_football and the following paragraph, in conjuntion with the "Football in New Zealand" template at the bottom of the article should clearly answer the question.--ClubOranje^T 05:29, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Strictly speaking this first bit is OR, but this image from a MPL game between Ferrymead Bays and Western doesn't convey the set-up I associate with a fully professional league. The Bays website also mentions that their captain is a warehouse manager "by day". Actually, I've just noticed that the link in this very article states Lewis' day job, making clear that he is not a professional footballer himself....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 05:43, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• ....and the website of a MPL club clearly states "Wellington Phoenix is the only New Zealand-based professional club" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 05:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Yes, agreed; thanks for clarifying that.  Chzz  ►  22:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - clearly doesn't pass WP:GNG or WP:NSPORT -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 05:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - does not meet the inclusion criteria for sportsmen, because it is not a fully-professional league. Does not meet the general notability criteria, because there is no evidence of "significant coverage in reliable sources".  Chzz  ►  22:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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