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The result was redirect to C.D. Guadalajara. Redirected to main without deletion, since it's a straight copy as far as we know. Content available in the history for comparison and copyover if anyone wants to do that. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 10:53, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

History of C.D. Guadalajara[edit]

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In 2010 an editor was working to attain featured article status for C.D. Guadalajara. They decided the history section was too long so they copied it out into this article, intending to trim it in the other article. For some reason the work on C.D. Guadalajara doesn’t seem to have taken place, so for nine years this article has survived as a straight copy of the history section of the other. I put it up for PROD yesterday but a good faith editor has deprodded it and suggested merger back into C.D. Guadalajara. It can’t be merged back as it is a copy of it, so I’m bringing it to AfD. Mccapra (talk) 08:16, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 08:16, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 08:16, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge I swear I'm not being stupid intentionally, but the proper, technical result here is to merge this article back into the other article, resulting in its deletion. The fact there's nothing to merge (I haven't compared but I'm assuming) makes this a bit strange, but if someone were to come improve the article in the next week I would stick to the merge vote unless something substantial occurred. SportingFlyer T·C 12:22, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 14:57, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to parent article. Giant Snowman 14:59, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect - this kind of stuff doesn't have to come to AFD, as the topic of the history of this famous team, surely unquestionably meets notability standards. Nfitz (talk) 23:10, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment apologies if I've brought this to the wrong place. Perhaps I don't properly understand what 'merge' means as I don't understand how you can merge articles when one is a copy of the other. Mccapra (talk) 12:50, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Mccapra: No worries, it's pretty technical/pedantic/bureaucratic at this point since the result isn't necessarily obvious. In my mind, delete means to get rid of the article completely, whereas here we just have a failed fork - there's nothing wrong with the notability or the content, it's just unnecessarily duplicated. A merge and redirect will end up just being a redirect, but my (again relatively pedantic) reading of merge means whoever closes this will have to confirm the content on both pages is equivalent before this gets redirected, and merge any differences that are on the History page but not the main article, whereas someone deleting the page would just nuke it into wiki-oblivion. SportingFlyer T·C 13:21, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A key point, is changing an article to a redirect can be done boldly by any editor. Though I suppose we might end up here if there are those who object to that, and this does make it more official. Nfitz (talk) 14:27, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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