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The result was delete. ff m 17:54, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hotring Racer[edit]

NN individual car from Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, has absolutely no out of universe significance, and anything pertinent is/ can be covered in the main article. I originally boldly redirected this to Grand Theft Auto Series, but this was rolled back by the original author. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 22:15, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:37, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not notable enough for own article. Article is all OR and unlikely to garner any satisfactory references. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 22:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What difference does it make if an article has little significance since there is no paper limit on an online encyclopedia? If someone wanted to look up hotring racer, might there as well not be an article about it? Daniel Christensen (talk) 23:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply While WP:NOT#PAPER could apply here, an article must still meet certain real world notability requirements which is established through multiple, independent, non trivial sources. This article cites no sources, and seems to be comprised primarily of original research (I couldn't find anything on google). Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 00:00, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect both to Grand Theft Auto: Vice City for now. I don't think every car in the Grand Theft Auto series should have its own article. I would support redirects to List of vehicles in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City but it doesn't exist (and List of vehicles in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas was redirected to Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas#Vehicles). Since editors on Wikipedia seem opposed to "gameguide" material or GameFAQs-type material, maybe some soft redirects to Wikia[1][2]? --Pixelface (talk) 00:21, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination extended by Infernus (car). A little late, but all points made are applicable to that article as well. --Amalthea^Talk 00:59, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletions. MrKIA11 (talk) 13:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both - neither has been the subject of substantial, independent, reliable coverage; both appear to be original research. Marasmusine (talk) 15:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note that we now have a List of Vehicles in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, where Infernus (car) redirects. I guess that both nominated articles can be redirected there, but its notability is questionable, per the San Andreas version (not to mention that some of the vehicles are available in several parts of the GTA series, so if anything there should be one list to rule them all). --Amalthea^Talk 16:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both — per failing both WP:N and WP:NOT. Articles lack verifiable sources, and both articles seem to consist of original research. MuZemike (talk) 16:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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