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The result was keep. Enigma^msg 21:43, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hugo Andersson[edit]

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Doesn't pass basic GNG. The person is not notable enough to warrant his own article. Search engines doesn't have any mention of the guy and his accomplishments as well. Butch.labajo (talk) 13:51, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 14:46, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 14:46, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Andersson was a football player in Allsvenskan in 1933-1934 which limits the availability of digitalised reference material, but he had 15 appearances in the top football league and scored 7 goals which means WP:NFOOTY is met. Trying to search for information in online sources is made more difficult by the fact that the name Hugo Andersson is common, and there's another football player by the same name in MFF today, but there is a print source in the article which is both independent and appears to be non-trivial coverage. I'll get it from the library tomorrow and check. --bonadea contributions talk 20:08, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - meets WP:NFOOTBALL; needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 13:10, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:NFOOTY as per Bonadea. SportingFlyer talk 04:11, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Passes NFOOTY, has played senior international football, in a fully professional league or in a match in the competition proper (i.e. not qualifying rounds) of a cup competition which involved two teams both from FPLs. Fenix down (talk) 10:59, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Although the argument that Allsvenskan is a fully professional league is somewhat asynchronous – it wasn't at the time, so it's more that he played in a league that would become fully professional. But we've generally wanted to cover the early stages of sports that would later become, so to speak, financially more important. /Julle (talk) 11:27, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~. All the above "keep" votes base their argument on meets/passes WP:NFOOTBALL/WP:NFOOTY/WP:NSOCCER. But Allsvenskan was not a fully professional league by ~~1934~~1931, as the last editor above admits. Further, the SSG found at WP:ATH does not overrule GNG, see the FAQ at Wikipedia:Notability (sports). Hence no policy-based argument for keeping can be found. Sam Sailor 18:52, 30 April 2018 (UTC) Ammended, Sam Sailor 07:11, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For bonadea to report on their findings. As Sam Sailor correctly points out, WP:NFOOTY (as part of WP:NSPORT) is the one SNG that does not replace GNG or WP:BIO, so arguing that just NFOOTY is met is not sufficient. However, 1932–33 Malmö FF season exists as a potential merge target per WP:ATD which should also be discussed.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, So Why 12:05, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Clearly meets WP:NFOOTBALL whether we like it or not. Should be kept and improved.BabbaQ (talk) 10:03, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Malmö FF players (fewer than 25 appearances). SoWhy makes a valid point in his relist comment: consider an ATD outcome; I have changed my !vote. There is nothing much to merge anywhere, as the only available information in the current article is name, nationality, position, games played, and goals scored, and these data are already present in List of Malmö FF players (fewer than 25 appearances).

Our sole source presently is

Alsjö, Martin (2011). 100 år med Allsvensk fotboll (in Swedish). Idrottsförlaget. pp. 307–309. ISBN 978-91-977326-7-3.

I don't believe pages 307–309 are about Hugo Andersson. Think about it: how much could the sources then or now possibly write about a player that only had 1 season, and only played 15 games out of 22 on a team that placed 9? Did anybody pick up the book and had a look at it?

Searching for 100 år med Allsvensk fotboll 307–309 here on Wikipedia, I find the above source has been re-used verbatim in around 200 articles. This suggests that pages 307–309 in the source are mere database entries, and that the mention of Hugo Andersson is trivial. Can anyone find any other sources about him? Sam Sailor 07:11, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Clearly passes WP:NFOOTBALL.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:21, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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