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The result was delete. L Faraone 04:26, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ice Carosello[edit]

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Non-notable short film. Little to no coverage in third-party sources. Probably created by a WP:COI editor. The article claims that "the video gained recognition on the Viral Video Chart of The Guardian newspaper", but a Google site search of guardian.co.uk does not return any results at all. 4,712 Youtube views is not very viral for a viral video... jonkerz ♠talk 20:06, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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~~:I'd AGF on the list of attained awards and say Keep. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:16, 9 June 2013 (UTC)~~ It is now established that the list of "Awards" are not well referenced and do nothing to establish general notability. As such, I now say Delete Concurring with Michael, there may be Swedish sources out there, just maybe. As a second opinion, a redirect/merge to the Ice Hotel article could be suitable. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 04:10, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It did win one non-notable award from an organization "that supports the advancement of moving image arts about the built environment", but it seems like it was only screened at the two other short film festivals, not nominated for any award (see collapsed content below). jonkerz ♠talk 15:29, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The SMIBE award is the only referenced one. This non-notable festival is not mentioned in WP:RS sources, and its last competition was held in December 2011. The other four nominations from two different festivals were copied from IMDb, which should be avided per WP:IMDB/RS. Uppsala International Short Film Festival has its own WP page, but the Hamburg festival does not. I cannot find the film on the Uppsala festival's website: Uppsala International Short Film Festival "Ice Carosello" 10 hits Uppsala Internationella Kortfilmfestival carosello 1 hit, the Swedish Film Institute's (SFI) website, only says it was screened at the festival, not nominated for any award. site:shortfilmfestival.com "Ice Carosello" site:shortfilmfestival.com ice site:shortfilmfestival.com löw site:shortfilmfestival.com mattias 0 hits We could use the SFI ref to verify that it screened at the festival (it doesn't say if was one of the about 100 films that competed in the international competition section or one of the perhaps 200 total films screened at the festival), but that does not establish notability. The film is listed on Hamburg International Short Film Festival's website, but so are 311 other films from the 2011 festival, and it doesn't say it was nominated for any award. In addition to this thin coverage, I've only managed to find a few trivial mentions, mostly in computer generated content. The Swedish interwiki link does not give any notability; like the ENWP article, it was created by an account that happens to use the same name as the film's director.

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The SMIBE award is the only referenced one. This non-notable festival is not mentioned in WP:RS sources, and its last competition was held in December 2011.

The other four nominations from two different festivals were copied from IMDb, which should be avided per WP:IMDB/RS. Uppsala International Short Film Festival has its own WP page, but the Hamburg festival does not.

I cannot find the film on the Uppsala festival's website:

Uppsala International Short Film Festival "Ice Carosello"
- 10 hits
Uppsala Internationella Kortfilmfestival carosello
- 1 hit, the Swedish Film Institute's (SFI) website, only says it was screened at the festival, not nominated for any award.
site:shortfilmfestival.com "Ice Carosello"
site:shortfilmfestival.com ice
site:shortfilmfestival.com löw
site:shortfilmfestival.com mattias
- 0 hits

We could use the SFI ref to verify that it screened at the festival (it doesn't say if was one of the about 100 films that competed in the international competition section or one of the perhaps 200 total films screened at the festival), but that does not establish notability.

The film is listed on Hamburg International Short Film Festival's website, but so are 311 other films from the 2011 festival, and it doesn't say it was nominated for any award.

In addition to this thin coverage, I've only managed to find a few trivial mentions, mostly in computer generated content. The Swedish interwiki link does not give any notability; like the ENWP article, it was created by an account that happens to use the same name as the film's director.

It did screen at the Upsalla in 2011,[1]but I could not confirm the award. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 03:19, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per TOO SOON. This 3-minute ice carving documentary had serious issues with distribution, and while the concepts it used were novel enough for it to gain recognition at couple minor festivals, it did not receive coverage or comentary in reliable sources. I "prettied" the article up, but could not find more than the fact that I did win at least one minor award and the entire three minutes can be seen on YouTube. While Danish and Swedish sources may exist, I could not find even a hint of them. If this changes, fine... but for now WP:NF is failed. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 16:36, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- With it lacking suitable notability for a separate article, I'd be okay with a redirect to Icehotel (Jukkasjärvi)... the place it was shot and the place where this 3-minute film is shared outside of Youtube. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 12:43, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:27, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Denmark-related deletion discussions. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 18:00, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 16:15, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar · · 18:02, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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