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The result was delete. Nobody is for keeping this maybe-place, so... Sandstein 18:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Independence, Uintah County, Utah[edit]
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Another nothing-place entered from GNIS with nothing in particular there. Mangoe (talk) 03:12, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Van Cott's entry is interesting, in that it actually verifies that this was nothing. This was a land speculation scam at the time of the 1906 land rush of parts of the Uintah and Ouray Indian Reservation, alkaline soil land sold as prime arable. If there's actual in-depth documentation of the scam from contemporary sources, we could refactor. But I'm finding just 1 sentence in the history books, again verifying that this was nothing:
On this trip, Smart inspected the prospective townsites of Moffett near Fort Duchesne and Independence in the Dry Gulch area; neither town materialized.
Perhaps Hog Farm or someone will have success with the newspapers. Uncle G (talk) 05:35, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Utah. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 06:08, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I turned up this, but I'm not sure if it's referring to this Independence, or Independence, Utah, which is ~100 miles away. Is this 1907 reference to "soil experts" claiming that the soil at Independence being a bumper site for wheat a reference to the scam itself, or a reference to the other Independence? I'm inclined to think that this from 1909 is referring to this Independence, though. In the roughly 1906-1909 period, there was a column in the Vernal paper titled "Independence Sparks" that mentions people living in the area and there being a hotel, but without anything to guide on a general history of the site, I'm finding it hard to determine what is referring to the right Independence. Any thoughts, Uncle G? Hog Farm Talk 02:14, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- The Vernal Express's mention of "reservation country" leads me to believe that the first one is on point. The second one mentions "Little Dry Gulch", which relates to modern names, which again appears to make it on point. This would make the third one on point, too. You can read Van Cott here. Van Cott gives 1912 as the date that this ended, so if it made the news that's the approximate year to look. Uncle G (talk) 09:28, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Delete as Blatant Hoax. Could be recreated to be about the scam if enough sources are found casualdejekyll 07:50, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- This isn't a hoax. We can have articles about notable scams/hoaxes, and while our article is wrong, I wouldn't call it a csd-able hoax. Hog Farm Talk 14:03, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- "Van Cott's entry is interesting, in that it actually verifies that this was nothing." - @Uncle G The thing is, everything in the article is blatantly wrong. There is no community at the location described in the article. casualdejekyll 20:51, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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