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The result was Delete. Randykitty (talk) 10:10, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ireland (1937-1949)[edit]

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Contested speedy, article poorly duplicates information in Republic of Ireland also article title is against the outcome of the discussion on island v state article naming. Murry1975 (talk) 16:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Murry1975 (talk) 16:58, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. --Sammy1339 (talk) 17:55, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Not needed, already covered by History of the Republic of Ireland. Snappy (talk) 18:29, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment -- This could be a legitimate article, as we can have a hierarchy of articles going from the general to the detailed, usually lined by "main" templates. However that means that the detailed article needs to be more detailed than the general one. In this case it is less so. I note that the article cited by Snappy has its section break at 1939, not 1937 where the constitutional break falls. I would recommend that the headings be changed accordingly. Peterkingiron (talk) 20:05, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for 1939 in History of the Republic of Ireland is for World War II, which is important given Ireland's neutrality. This article however has been created for pov reasons, and should be considered a pov fork. It contains nothing that can't be added to History of the Republic of Ireland. It also tries to create the impression that a new state came into being in 1949. Ireland left the British Commonwealth in that year, the 1937 Constitution of Ireland did not change, an Act of the Oireachtas was passed, so one country left an organisation of countries, no new state was created. This article is factually incorrect as the infobox says Ireland (1937-1949) was succeeded by the Republic of Ireland. This is wrong, Ireland (or Eire, or whatever you want to call it) came into being in 1937 and has remained in existence since then. Snappy (talk) 21:59, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - could/should have been speedy deleted as per arb ruling here: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ireland article names -- HighKing⁺⁺ 18:15, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment an admin turned down the speedy, arb outcome was linked on talkpage at that stage. Murry1975 (talk) 18:19, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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