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The result was keep. ✗plicit 03:12, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Jim Traue (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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The subject appears to have led an unremarkable life. Most of the sources are either self-published or include a passing mention of the subject. ONZM is a relatively low-ranking national award. The article fails WP:GNG. WWGB (talk) 02:03, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Museums and libraries and New Zealand. WWGB (talk) 02:03, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Was chief librarian at Turnbull (1973–1990) and that gives a high enough profile that he'll get over the GNG bar. Those chief librarians get an entry (usually, at least – haven't checked them all) in the Who's Who in New Zealand (e.g. his predecessor is included in the 10th edition), and that inclusion is generally considered enough to meet GNG. Traue is listed in the 11th edition of this work, but interestingly, he was the editor for that edition, hence this aspect isn't quite as clear cut. Either way, The Press is now online until 1989 and that'll provide some online sources for Traue. Schwede66 02:49, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. As suggested by Schwede66, I've done an initial search of the Papers Past records under both Jim Traue and James Traue. Most of the hits for Traue are him speaking on behalf of the library, e.g. to talk about library acquisitions, rather than coverage about him as the subject. However, there are some relevant sources, which I've added to the article. Chief librarian of the Turnbull is a notable position, given that it was in effect the national research library of New Zealand for many years (and still is today, as part of the National Library of New Zealand), and to have held that position from 1973 to 1990 is impressive.
- I'd expect that he is covered extensively in the 1995 book Turnbull, A Library and Its World by Rachel Barrowman; although I don't have access to this source at the moment, this Evening Post review accessible via Proquest notes that Barrowman covers three phases of the library's development: "The third [phase] saw Jim Traue fight hard to transform the Turnbull into a research institution and to stave off the worst excesses of the National Library, to which the Turnbull had undergone a shotgun wedding."
- I can see why it was nominated for deletion in the present state, but do think the subject is notable. I've done a little bit of work on the article and hope to do more. Chocmilk03 (talk) 22:41, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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