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The result was draftify. So Why 10:25, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Josh Heaton[edit]

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PROD removed by article creator, no reason given. Fails WP:GNG (no significant coverage) and WP:NFOOTBALL (yet to actually play in a fully-professional league; being a squad member is not enough). Giant Snowman 08:05, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 08:05, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I promoted this from AfC on an incorrect reading of NFOOTBALL. Since he was just signed this month and the season doesn't start for another two months, he obviously can't be a "player who has played" in a professional league, even if he may be a player in a professional league. Chetsford (talk) 08:20, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played or managed senior international football nor played or managed in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 09:05, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
~~Draftify~~ Delete - logically we should be draftifying, send it back to where it was from. It may well turn out to a be a legitimate article under NFOOTBALL in a couple of months, so let's set it up for that. Nosebagbear (talk) 22:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Nosebagbear: - a separate, and IMO better, draft by me has existed since June... Giant Snowman 08:35, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That draft is better, I'm not sure the presence of a better draft prohibits returning another article back to one, or (as is a more likely argument) whether it nullifies any argument to preserve the information in an open form for writers to use. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:57, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There's no point having two separate drafts on the same topic. Have one and keep the histories intact. Giant Snowman 11:31, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and histmerge to User:GiantSnowman/Josh Heaton as above Hhkohh (talk) 13:14, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify. Dare say Mr Heaton will make his debut soon: he was on the bench for St Mirren on Friday. In the meantime, all those who have content prepared on the subject (me as well, although offline rather than in userspace :-) can add to it. Isn't that what draftspace is for? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:54, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify appears to be two drafts on the same subject: the current mainspace article has better formatting and is easier to read, while the draft contains more information. A delete/draftify merge should be in order. SportingFlyer talk 04:56, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Mr Heaton made his St Mirren debut last night, although as the Scottish League Cup isn't a fully professional competition and ther opponents were not from a WP:FPL-listed league, I don't know if that counts towards WP:NFOOTY. Anyway, I've expanded the article, so if it does still get deleted, when it's restored there'll be rather more content than there was before. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 07:38, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, it doesn't make him notable per WP:NFOOTBALL. I've merged my sandbox into this to maintain the history - happy to draft and wait for the (no doubt inevitable) professional debut... Giant Snowman 07:59, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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