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The result was delete. Nja²⁴⁷ 15:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joshua Hill (American soccer player)[edit]

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Fails WP:ATHLETE. Appears to have played college soccer, followed by a number of attempts to sign for European teams. But lacking any evidence these occurred, no cites, and article has a history of fallacies being added. Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 13:01, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Even if everything in the article were sourced, we'd still only have a semi-professional footballer, and they're no more notable than minor-league baseball players, who are virtually always deleted — you have to be fully professional, not just semi-. Nyttend (talk) 13:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 15:02, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. ClubOranje^T 10:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• do not delete I have coached and known this player for over 10 years. Not only have I seen this player grow as an athlete but as a respectable person as well.I had even tried to recruit him while I coached at the university of Hartford. I believe that the current version of the article is due justice for all of the hard work put into his career. I would also like to add that la liga segunda A and B divisions in Spain are all fully professional leagues. I personally watched Josh during his play there.I will send citations in due time. Sincerely - Richard Rollins former U of Hartford goalkeeper coach and star goalkeeper academy national director —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.144.189 (talk) 02:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cites would be good, please supply. But unfortunately it's all been promised before. This article has consistently overstated his achievements and has even had fictional events added to it. So much so that all uncited material can only be viewed with scepticism. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 12:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. I agree cites would be good. Have searched extensively and failed to find anything - obviously WP:GNG isn't going to save him so he is hanging by the faint hope of WP:ATHLETE assuming claims of competitive game time at Malaga are real - but until it is verifiable I don't buy it. Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues doesn't list Segunda División B as fully professional league so CE L'Hospitalet cites would need to be pretty damn good. I don't doubt he exists, but he doesn't seem to have achieved notability--ClubOranje^T 10:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom; fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:N. GiantSnowman 10:42, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment The article does claim that he "saw action with the Harrisburg City Islanders", who are in USL2, which we take to be a fully pro league. However, there is no proof of this. Unless some can be provided, I go for delete. Also, the article reads like a resume from the player's agent. пﮟოьεԻ 57 14:35, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete non-notable subject. If proof he meets both WP:ATHLETE and WP:N is provided, then I might change my mind, but I don't see any evidence of this here. --Angelo (talk) 10:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Not a single mention of him, or any other American keeper for that matter, at Excelsior anywhere on the internet. And besides, the club would never even consider paying the Dutch non-EU minimum footballers wage for a keeper. 62.163.32.2 (talk) 12:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help with this article Keepertastic here I need help with this article I have the backing evidence of the account of this player. But when I put the links up they do not appear as the others have. And as for the EU minimum comment the player in question according to the U.S. Soccer Federation played on a Swedish Passport. Please help with this and is there anyway to translate the articles because they are in something called Catalan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keepertastic (talk • contribs) 18:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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