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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Karl Baker[edit]

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As an objective outsider (New Zealander), I find that this page on Karl Baker does not satisfy Wikipedia's notability policy. When I first saw this article, it was obviously written by a fan with significant neutrality and grammatical issues. I read the provided sources and made a concerted effort to find other secondary sources to no avail. There is not enough information that is publicly available to justify this page, let alone write it, and I would like to nominate this page for deletion. Dionysus (talk) 01:24, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Incubate - the standard for association football players is WP:NFOOTY which requires that to be notable, the player must have played for a team in a league which appears in the list of fully professional leagues.

Baker is signed to Torquay United F.C. which competes in Football League Two which is on the list of fully professional leagues. He was previously a youth team player at the same club and was recently signed to the senior team (in August). However, his [player profile on the team website suggests he is yet to actually play a game for the club which means he would fail WP:NFOOTY. That said, given the recent signing and the fact that he is likely to play for the club at some stage in the near future, I would imagine the likelihood that he will pass WP:NFOOTY in the future would be very high. WP:TOOSOON, but possibly only a matter of weeks. Stalwart111 (talk) 03:33, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:05, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:06, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:06, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Note - AfD nomination was malformed and the creator was not notifed; both now rectified. GiantSnowman 16:15, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Plenty of stat sites show he has never played a pro game - Soccerway and Soccerbase being the two most prominent. GiantSnowman 16:17, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Fails WP:ATHLETE. Qworty (talk) 20:32, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - article is about a footballer who has not yet played in a fully pro league or represented his country at senior level, which means that the article fails WP:NFOOTBALL. Also fails WP:GNG due to lack of coverage in reliable sources. Mentoz86 (talk) 17:40, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete not notable. SalHamton (talk) 01:51, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.