The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. As there is no valid merge target at the moment (perhaps eventually the redlink from Anarchangel below), consensus favors deletion. If editors would like a copy of this article to store in their userspace or in the article incubator for use upon the creation of the aforementioned article, please let me know. Thank you, and God bless! Go Phightins! 15:59, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

List of anime selected for the Cannes Film Festival[edit]

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A trivia list of anime films that aired at a film festival. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 10:43, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if it should be deleted. I actually really wanted to know the names of the anime films that were screened at the Cannes after I heard the news for Princess Kaguya. There were no definitive list in the net. I guessed other people might want to know as well. And hence created the article. User:Hyperactve (Talk · Contribs) 23:51, 6 August 2014 (BD)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:40, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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My question is not why list films selected for Cannes, but why a separate list for anime? What treatment in secondary sources justifies this, or any other list of such films by genre or form? Why not a broader list for all animated films, or why not only list all films by festival year? postdlf (talk) 19:58, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Three titles in the last 12 years doesn't seem like much of a list. If they were winners of an award at Cannes, there might be more of a case, as it stands it's just unnecessary trivia. Worth noting on the article pages? Yes. As a 3 item list? Not so much. SephyTheThird (talk) 20:09, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or Merge the info into the selected anime articles if it has not been done already. As Sephy said, none of these were winners, useless triva. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:04, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Trivial reason for a list and could begin an endless set of lists of "x genre shown at y festival". Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 06:41, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Cannes is the most prestigious festival in the world! It has been easier to win at the Academy Awards than at Cannes, as evidenced by Miyazaki's three nominations and one win. This list could survive and be useful if all entries are included like Yami wo Mitsumeru Hane, INTERSTELLA 5555, etc. or the debut of smaller works at Cannes. Overall, the list is too small to be of note and a category suffices for now. And anyone calling it useless trivia should be ashamed - Oscar nominations are not "useless trivia" and Cannes has proved more difficult to get an award than any other. Long ago, I had to check with Cannes about Castle of Cagliostro and it was over a decade that its mythical win was assumed as fact. Innocence was one of the twenty films competing for the highest honor, the Palme d'Or. The list is incomplete as is - and something that the nominator, and commentators are unaware of what's even been at Cannes. A case of the blind leading the blind. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 17:23, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- To the extent I understand your comment, it doesn't explain why we should have a separate list for anime selected for Cannes. We are not discussing whether there should be any lists for Cannes selections or award winners. postdlf (talk) 17:45, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If the list is incomplete, thats one thing. It's also a good reason to work on a more developed article in user space while researching it and looking for more information. However I'm not sure the difficulty of getting an award or the prestigious-ness is particularly relevant for a list of films simply shown at a festival, especially when films can be shown without being entered for an award. The issue isn't Cannes, it's about the need for an anime only list of films that were at Cannes (which is where the trivia part comes in, not the actual inclusion at the festival). More entries and better sourcing may have a stronger case, but we can only judge the article on those merits once we have evidence. Innocence competing for the Palme d'or is important information for the film's article and the festival itself. It's not enough justification to have a list though. SephyTheThird (talk) 21:07, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or merge to List of films selected for the Cannes Film Festival. Yeh. Does not exist yet. Creating it would address postdlf's argument. Many of the arguments to delete above rely on the Camel's Nose / Slippery Slope logical fallacy, which holds that any policy move in any direction is unstoppable. This argument relies on fear and ignores good sense and the power of consensus; it would be perfectly reasonable to argue that selection at Cannes is notable while selection elsewhere is not. Sound and reasonable arguments are all that is required to make good policy. Lastly, and least as it is admittedly an OTHERSTUFF argument, the article should exist if List of Cannes Film Festival jury presidents is anything to go by. Anarchangel (talk) 21:04, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I think each year's selections are already listed as part of the individual festival articles, such as 2014 Cannes Film Festival. postdlf (talk) 21:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and merge. The scope is just too narrow, it is a pointless fork (although not intended to mislead). Szzuk (talk) 22:22, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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