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The result was delete. Eagles 24/7 (C) 02:51, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of fictional canines in film[edit]

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A "list" that, due to the ridiculous degree of specificity, consists of a single, non-referenced entry. As there do not appear to be any reliable sources discussing canines in non-animated films that are neither dogs nor wolves, this is a complete failure of WP:LISTN. As there is no sourced information, there is nothing to redirect or merge. Rorshacma (talk) 22:37, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Rorshacma (talk) 22:37, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. Rorshacma (talk) 22:37, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:23, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:23, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

delete This used to live at List of fictional foxes, which was mangled before being redirected to this article. That list is obviously supportable, even ignoring the tendency to accumulate cruft: foxes are common main or important supporting characters in literature and film of all eras, with many blue links in the last full version of that article. There's no reason not to have that list at its obvious name, and having restored it, a list of "canines" as it is now defined has no reason to exist, especially since the typical reader will understand it to encompass exactly the lists of dogs and wolves. Mangoe (talk) 23:34, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete In its current state has almost no content, but previously was just an unreferenced list. Category:Fictional canines is definitely sufficient._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 23:39, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of fictional canines of which this list appears to be a spin-off, given that there is only one entry on this page. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly, I think the whole "fictional canines" structure needs to go away. With some exceptions, these are lists of lists or even just directories of lists, with dogs and wolves as a rule excluded, even though they are the main canines. I just don't see the use for this hierarchy, as there isn't a reason within fiction/film/whatever to group dogs and foxes and wolves and jackals and whatever else together: why not all carnivores? Organizing literary tropes by biological taxonomy just doesn't make sense. Mangoe (talk) 05:30, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Surely most English-speaking people, like me, think first of dogs when they see the word "canine". To exclude the most obvious example of a type of animal seems ridiculous. Phil Bridger (talk) 10:16, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails GNG and therefore fails LISTN. (Note: the subfamily Caninae includes all of the living canids, which includes dogs, wolves, foxes, jackals etc. Unclear how the current division of lists came about, all of the others should fall under this list.) William Harristalk 12:14, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Cavalryman (talk) 12:39, 15 February 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Delete, this list is useless and misleading. Reyk _YO! 22:57, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is not a list, it is one non-notable entry. Excluding dogs makes this lis pointless.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:14, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, useless list that's not really a list. It's WP:SNOWing. Hog Farm (talk) 14:47, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per SNOW. Who left the dogs out? Clarityfiend (talk) 20:28, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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