The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. 1) Consensus is that a category should be created. 2) There is no consensus as to whether the list should be deleted. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of films about the RMS Titanic[edit]

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Trvial list of Titanic movies that are all listed within Category:RMS Titanic already. Suggest deletion of article and possbile creation of dedicated category for films based upon the tragedy. magnius (talk) 15:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Convert to category. Having it as a list gives no added value vs having it as a category. — QuantumEleven 15:27, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Convert to category. Per nominator and quantum. Irbisgreif (talk) 15:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I do not see what makes the list trivial. Categories and lists are complementary, and there is no reason not to have both. Lists have the particular advantage of providing some information about the material in which they appear, thus facilitating identification and browsing, & this list dooes--it will help people recall what film they have in mind. Browsing is a key function of an encyclopedia. DGG (talk) 17:47, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Convert to category. per above. -- RUL3R^{*flaming | *vandalism} 18:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Given that the sinking of RMS Titanic has been a favorite of moviemakers over the last 97 years, it's notable enough to be a topic. The suggestion of a "conversion" to category suggests that one has to make a choice between one format or another. I think we list people can show some tolerance and let people make a category in addition to this list, since there isn't one now. There's no reason that this can't we can add a category in addition to being a list WP:CLN. A category wouldn't include any information other than the name of a film, with no information about date of release, director, actors, etc, etc. While I think that categories are a grossly inefficient and slow way to navigate, and I've never understood their appeal, I recognize that some people prefer them to lists, and I will not nominate that in the "Categories for Deletion" forum. Mandsford (talk) 18:14, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Lists and categories go hand-in-hand, per WP:CLN and DGG. Lugnuts (talk) 19:48, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Convert to category. Being the person who made this article, I can now agree that this should be converted to a category. I was an amateur Wikipedia editor at the time and knew little about categories. Superior1 (talk) 02:10, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry that you feel that way about something you created, but there are other persons who have made improvements to this article over the last two years as well. I just don't understand why people who like categories seem (to me anyway) to be so intolerant of having information presented any other way. I seldom use the little category tags at the bottom of an article, unless there's not a page that has the info at a glance. But I'm glad they're available for people who prefer that method when they explore Wikipedia. Duplicate this in the form of a category if you wish, but the only delete argument I've seen so far is from the nominator, on grounds that he believes that the topic is trivial. From what I can tell, Magnius suggests that it would be no less trivial for a category. Mandsford (talk) 03:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, but nothing wrong with having a category as well. The category doesn't annotate or sort the films in chronolgical order. The films covering the Titanic disaster were well covered in media when the 1997 film was released. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:43, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• You know, I change mind. Move. to List of films based on the RMS Titanic and have de category as well. -- RUL3R^{*flaming | *vandalism} 16:24, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Convert to category. There aren't that many films about RMS Titanic anyway, and as such, I don't really think a list like this should be kept as an article. We might as well start making articles like List of films about the Tay Bridge Disaster. --Crablogger (talk) 15:52, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it's a matter of opinion about whether seventeen films would be many or few. I'm hard pressed to think of another story that has been retold that many times on the silver screen. Has there been a film about the Tay Bridge disaster of 1879? I know there was a legendarily awful poem about it. Still, if it's not enough to merit a list, then it isn't enough to merit a category either. Mandsford (talk) 13:07, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Lists can organize information in ways that categories cannot. Edward321 (talk) 16:34, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.