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The result was merge to Censorship in Iran, which I already did. (There were more keep votes, but the mergists were more convincing, plus AfD is not a vote) --Wizardman 19:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of films banned in Iran[edit]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions. -- Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 06:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article appears to be little more than a cut and paste of an IMDb search (which isn't a particularly reliable source). It doesn't say if these are the only films ever banned in Iran, or if they are merely a few titles out of thousands of banned films. I've tried using these titles as a starting point to find references, but all I get are Wikipedia mirrors. Croxley 01:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Interesting info. --Paukrus 01:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Censorship in Iran which is overly focused on Internet censorship and not enough on other forms of censorship. FrozenPurpleCube 01:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge all verifiable info into Censorship in Iran, per FrozenPurpleCube. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 02:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge content and delete article. Some interesting and possibly relevant information (depending on the reliability of the source) but not suitable material for a stand-alone article. Verify and merge into Censorship in Iran, then delete this article.--William Thweatt ^Talk | ^Contribs 03:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not an option to merge and delete, as the GFDL requires a record be kept of the edits, thus if a merge is made, this must be kept, even if redirected. FrozenPurpleCube 03:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have done a merging from this list to Censorship in Iran. Please see. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep A well-defined list that just needs some expansion and more sources.Perhaps also explain why it was banned for each instance. --Nehrams2020 06:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect following the merge by Dwaipayan (which was slightly premature due to this thing being on AFD, but never mind). Media and censorship policies in Iran are just as valid topics as equivalent laws in other countries. Sjakkalle (Check!) 10:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per above. An interesting topic, but length means it can easily go into Censorship in Iran. A keep would be justified if there were some context about each film with reliable sources. The JPS ^{talk to me} 14:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- important to know what the barbaric regime in Iran is banning Astrotrain 15:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete now that the list was merged. Koweja 15:57, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep notable topic. I don't think a merge is necessary. Surely there have been more than 11 films banned in Iran? This list can probably be expanded, and explanations added as to why they were banned. --Aude (talk) 16:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, for now. I think the topic is well worth having a list for, but the lack of references is a deal-breaker. We must always insist on sources. I think this is a notable, encyclopedic topic, and if references appear by the end of this AfD then I'll happily change my vote. A Train ^{take the} 16:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete without redirect as the likelihood of someone searching for the specific search string List of films banned in Iran is very low. Otto4711 16:52, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Why not List of films banned in Somalia? Al-Bargit 17:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Um, why not? That isn't a good reason to delete. Koweja 18:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and "List of films band in Somalia" would be a great idea too. Worthy concept. Sounds perfectly encyclopedic as a subject, but any expansion of the list or more in-depth treatment would be even better. Noroton 18:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Censorship in Iran per User:FrozenPurpleCube. It's notable information, but does not warrant it's own article whilst the general topic of censorship in Iran is available. ĤĶ51→^Łalk 18:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Where are the non-IMDB sources discussing the films which have been banned in Iran? I don't deny their existence, but it would be nice to see them first before we assert the particular films that have been banned. GassyGuy 21:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge' to Censorship in Iran If and Only If reliable, third-party, fact-checked sources can be found for Wikipedia:Attribution purposes. Failing that, delete outright. -- saberwyn 22:44, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is exactly the sort of article that prevents a blanket "no list" rule. If ever Wikipedia were going to keep a notable, encyclopedic, list, this would be it. Especially because this is not merely a list on Wikipedia, but an actual "real world" list determined by the government of Iran. -- Richard Daly 01:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's lovely, but it would be nice if somebody could show us where the government of Iran had documented this. I would be the first to support this is we had some sort of evidence that these films really have been banned. Isn't this the sort of thing somewhere outside of IMDB should be cataloguing? I can't imagine that's how the Iranian government has disseminated its banning info. GassyGuy 05:05, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment from nominator; Just to clarify - my reason for nominating this list is the lack of verifiability of the titles on the list. Merging with Censorship in Iran as FrozenPurpleCube suggested is a good idea, but the information must still be verifiable. I've reverted the cut and paste merge that Dwaipayanc carried out, not only because this AfD discussion is still ongoing, but most importantly the titles are still unverified. Moving them to another article doesn't solve that. Croxley 05:59, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The page title can be adjusted, and individual items verified But the topic is N, and a list is appropriate.DGG 07:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the question still is, how does one verify individual items? GassyGuy 09:25, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- News articles, press releases, statements from the Iranian government... anything that can be reliably WP:Attributed stating "Film X has been banned (or equevilant terminology) from showing in Iran" would be the way to go. -- saberwyn 09:47, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - I certainly agree with this. I guess my question was, does anyone have any such sources so that the work could be done? GassyGuy 10:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - notable subject. Needs sources, but not deletion. Rename to media banned, though. - Peregrine Fisher 18:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - notable. WP:NOT#PAPER. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge into Censorship in Iran per all the reasons that have already been given. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 05:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and add references or trim; also it would help NPOV if each entry explained the cultural or political reasons involved in each ban and the period of the ban, where sources can justify that. John Vandenberg 12:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep notable and interesting subject. Article should be improved with sources added. Shlomke 00:29, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Useful information. Captain panda In vino veritas 22:54, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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