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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 02:28, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

List of football stadiums in Yugoslavia[edit]

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We don't need this for the same reason why we don't need List of football stadiums in the Ottoman Empire; there doesn't appear to be a demand for a list of stadiums in countries that no longer exist. The stadiums are adequately covered in the articles for the individual nations so this list is redundant in any case. Spiderone 16:36, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 16:50, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - "Other stuff doesnt't exist" is not a valid argument, this is not a discussion about stadiums in Ottoman Empire, but in Yugoslavia. As for notability, Yugoslav league was in 1991 according to UEFA ranking top10 league in Europe, infratructure of such league is certainly notable. History can't be ignored, I'm not interested in nationalist arguments. The topic is not adequately covered in the articles for the individual quasi nations as the infrastucture changed drastically since then due to introduction of all seating stadiums. Linhart (talk) 19:35, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Linhart: but this article is misleading. To someone that didn't know better, they would think that these stadiums in this list are actually in a current country called Yugoslavia. The whole point of WP:GNG is that there needs to be evidence of reliable sources covering the subject. You say that no other articles cover this adequately. Well, why does it need to be covered adequately? Spiderone 20:02, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad we came to important questions. I think it need to be covered adequately because i think it is about a notable subject. As I said it is about the infrastructure in a globally very strong league (in the most popular sport in that country). If someone thinks it's misledaing I can edit it gladly. Of course I can also provide many sources for numbers in the article if needed.Linhart (talk) 20:11, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So far all you've stated is that you think that the subject is notable. I can't see any evidence for this yet but I'm happy to be proved wrong if evidence does come out. I completely agree with what Wölf below is saying in that the article is incredibly unclear as to which version of Yugoslavia we are even discussing. Spiderone 21:46, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and so far all you stated is that it's not. For me it is, for the autors of "Encyclopedia of Yugoslav Football" it was, for others it's not.Linhart (talk) 22:31, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The scope of this article is ill-defined. Which Yugoslavia are we talking about: the kingdom, FPRY, SFRY, FRY? From which year is the situation we're quoting in the article? And after that is decided, why is the situation in that particular year notable? If the topic is not adequately covered in the lists of stadiums of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Serbia, etc., then I think it would be better to improve those articles instead of forking the content here. Perhaps we could merge it into Football in Yugoslavia as a section which portrays the stadium statistics from the time before the standing seats were abolished, but I'd definitely need more evidence to believe this can work as a standalone list. Daß Wölf 21:42, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The information is from 1991/1992, if you would click on a link in the first sentence of the article, eg Yugoslavia, you would see that it covers a country that existed untill 1992. If you have problem with clarity of that, feel free to discuss there [[1]] (it allready was discussed and that was the consensus). Information about possible stadiums that existed only in Kingdom of Yugoslavia and were demolished before 1991 is not included, because I don't have relevant sources. If someone has them, he/she is free to add them.Linhart (talk) 22:35, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The year should be mentioned in the article. Why is the stadium situation in 1991 notable enough to warrant a standalone article? Daß Wölf 22:44, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Because country collapsed in war afterwards. :o The situation was practicely unchanged from 1970s until 1991, any year could be used. Look, I don't really care, do whatever you want...Linhart (talk) 23:13, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Per WP:LISTN; no indication that the list topic has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources. Fenix down (talk) 09:23, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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