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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 00:23, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
List of games with EAX support[edit]
- List of games with EAX support (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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Unreferenced list with no assertion of notability. Why is it significant that a game has EAX support? Without an affirmative answer to this question, this falls under WP:NOTDIR. This is not a defining feature of video games that warrants a list. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:47, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:46, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:46, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Per nom, little more to add. This is a not defining trait and rarely commented on by secondary sourcing. Middlewares like this are so common we almost never mention them in prose and they are explicitly excluded from infobox video game. -- ferret (talk) 21:06, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. EAX support is found in lots of games, yet not a single would talk about this. Unlikely to be properly sourcable. IceWelder [✉] 21:31, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - please keep. This page is a very important resource for retrogamers, as I think it's now the only existing updated list of games with EAX support still existing on the Internet. As for the sources, they are at the references at the bottom. EAX was a very large part of gaming in the 90s. No more games are being made with EAX support, so this is not a list that will grow. Middleware like this is also not "common". It's like 3DFX Glide. It's was a very special technology at its heyday and is part of computing history. To the nominator, have you ever experienced EAX? It was quite something in its day, like Aureal A3D (something I have not seen matched to this day with its audio raytracing). These games sold Soundblaster soundcards, and these soundcards sold these games too. EAX was a defining feature of games such as Diablo II (not the remake) and early games based on the Unreal Engine, such as Unreal and Unreal Tournament - as well as Quake 4, which was one of the first games with EAX 5. EAX was a literal gamechanger and literally changed 90s gaming. -Object404 (talk) 03:04, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- By the way, the references are at the top of the table, beside the column header "Game", so this is not an unreferenced list. -Object404 (talk) 03:09, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I am sympathetic to the preservationist aspect of this topic but Wikipedia is not free webhosting. I'm sure there's a community somewhere that would be a better host for this information that is more targeted at its intended audience. And Deletionpedia exists, of course, as a last resort. As for the references, you're a longtime contributor here. You should know that in-line citations are required for this kind of thing. A handful of citations at the top to cover an entire table with hundreds of entries is onerous to verify and anyone could add a fraudulent entry somewhere in the middle without being noticed for months or years. And that's to say nothing about the reliability of those sources, which seem to be user-submitted (or dead linked). Axem Titanium (talk) 16:43, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- "I'm sure there's a community somewhere that would be a better host for this information that is more targeted at its intended audience." -> No, there isn't. The creative forums where a lot of this info used to be hosted are dead and aren't on archive.org. People aren't making copies of this list precisely because it already exists in a handy place, so there wasn't a need to create one. Since you guys seem to be leaning towards deletion, what's the best way to preserve all of this data verbatim? I'd like to back it up before it becomes deleted. Please wait for my backup confirmation before deletion. Thanks. -Object404 (talk) 22:13, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- As I said, it'll be preserved on Deletionpedia regardless. It looks like a standard wikitable with no special formatting or templates so the code will just work out of the box on anything that uses MediaWiki software. You can start a wiki for free at Wikia or host your own MediaWiki server. Axem Titanium (talk) 03:51, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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