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The result was delete. BJ^Talk 19:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of humanoid and synthetic Combine in Half-Life 2[edit]

Article also fails both WP:N and WP:NOT just as in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Combine Forces. See WP:SNOW.

I am also nominating the following related page because it is designed exactly the same way and has exactly the same problems as the former:

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletions. MuZemike (talk) 14:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. —Cliff smith ^talk 16:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – this fails both notability guidelines and verifiability policy in that neither of these two aspects of the Combine have been scrutinised in this level of detail by reliable, secondary sources, and although I imagine The Combine itself has covered by such sources, there's no evidence of independent notability for these spinoffs. Many aspects detail information are of use only to players of the game (hitpoints, weapon damage, entity spawn codes, spawning behaviour, advice on how to defeat enemies, etc), in breach of Wikipedia is not a guide and points 1, 3, 4, 5 and 6 of inappropriate video game content. Likewise, particularly with the technology list, this stuff is pretty indiscriminate, against Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, listing things down to a door and a shelf for storing weapons. Large parts of the articles consist of speculation, and it is primarily the result of original research from playing the game. This level of detail is simply not needed, cannot be saved and should be disposed of. Most (ie not the doors and shelves) already exist comfortably and in proper context at Combine Wiki, generally in better forms, so there is no need for a transwiki. -- Sabre (talk) 14:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Definitely fails the WP:N guideline, because a search reveals no reliable third-party sources that cover this subject. Also fails WP:V, because "if no reliable, third-party sources can be found for an article topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it." Also fails WP:VGSCOPE, because we only allow a WP:CONCISEPLOT rather than a detailed list of every weapon/technology/enemy/etc. in the game. Randomran (talk) 14:53, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you at least keep the information about Citadel in List of Combine non-combat technology in Half-Life 2#The Citadel? Maybe delete the old page and create a Citadel (Half-Life 2)? Unlike the other technology in the article (which can be unnecessary information), It has a big importance in the game and in the game plot. Or maybe it's better to transfer this information about Citadel to City 17? --Kotofei (talk) 20:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree some coverage of it is warranted, although not a separate article, as that would have all the same notability problems here. I'd suggest covering it in Combine (Half-Life) if anywhere, but the information contained on it here is still far too detailed for any encyclopedic coverage of the Citadel. You'd be better off just writing something new about it in either the Combine's article or if you wanted to City 17's article (both articles have their own problems that need to be addressed though, although unlike these two up for AfD they are surmountable) than trying to merge from this version strewn with original research and excessive plot and fictional details. -- Sabre (talk) 20:38, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and/or redirect to Combine (Half-Life), as this is far too detailed a series of descriptions to even begin to meet WP:VGSCOPE and related guidelines (esp. WP:WAF). Nifboy (talk) 16:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and no redirection. Wikipedia is not a game guide. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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