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The result was keep. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:38, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of ironic awards[edit]

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Long, unsourced list without any context or proper content. The title containing "ironic" is also quite subjective. Lordtobi (✉) 11:00, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as unsourced WP:SYNTH + WP:INDISCRIMINATE. — JFG ^talk 11:26, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - ironically this fails SYNTH and LISTCRUFT / LISTN --Quek157 (talk) 13:04, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. @JFG and Quek157: how did you say "synth" and "unsourced" in the same sentence? wumbolo ^^^ 14:40, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, good catch, ironically indeed! I guess what I mean is this thing is not sourced as a list, and even if each item was sourced individually, it would be synth. No saving grace… — JFG ^talk 14:49, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the existing Category:Ironic and humorous awards does the job this list is supposed to do, so the encyclopedia won't lose any information if this gets deleted. WP:PRESERVE is safe. — JFG ^talk 14:52, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

as above, but I didn't say OR.Quek157 (talk) 14:58, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per WP:LISTCRUFT. Completely subjective list. Ajf773 (talk) 23:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• As noted above, this is essentially the same as Category:Ironic and humorous awards (and if inclusion there can be verified, then this list does not present an issue). These entries do share the common, defining characteristic of recognizing poor performance, failure, etc., in other words, the exact opposite of what is considered meritorious enough to award. Whether "ironic" is the clearest descriptive word to unify these (the dictionary would suggest so), it seems clear that they are of the same character and all else seems to me mere semantics. How else would we index these? I'd expect some more substantive discussion on these point beyond the WP:VAGUEWAVEs above before we'd consider deleting this list or the category. postdlf (talk) 21:05, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. We similarly have List of awards. wumbolo ^^^ 20:53, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Really not sure how this comment makes any attempt to support keep. Ajf773 (talk) 04:40, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• It is also long and unsourced. wumbolo ^^^ 11:49, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Sounds more like a case for delete. Ajf773 (talk) 05:42, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep but rename something else, maybe List of mocking awards? Ironic doesn't really describe it and, as has been noted, is too hazy. It could be organized by subject as well. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:06, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep/rename to List of mock awards List of mocking awards. List is good, the title isn't though. Nate • (chatter) 01:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. "Mock" means fake or non-existent. These awards are real, hence my preference for "mocking". Clarityfiend (talk) 06:20, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I appreciate the extension of your explanation for the title ('the title isn't though' was to the title of the AfD). I'm convinced enough now. Nate • (chatter) 23:06, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: these are blue-linked entries; meet WP:LISTN. Current name is fine: List of ironic awards. Or perhaps List of sarcastic awards? K.e.coffman (talk) 03:29, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Despite claims to the contrary, the list is not indiscriminate and has clear inclusion criteria. Inclusion does not rely on the opinion of the person adding items as to whether they are ironic/mcoking. The criterion is that they are intended to be ironic/mcoking by the awarding body. The number of such awards does not seem to be so large that the list cannot be exhaustive. If that should happen, we can always limit the inclusion criteria to blue links only. SpinningSpark 00:17, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The fact that an award is intended to mock the recipient is one of the most basic factual claims that can be made about that award. It's first-sentence-of-lead-paragraph material. (For example, "The Golden Raspberry Awards (also known in short terms as Razzies and Razzie Awards) is a mock award in recognition of the worst in film.") As such, it doesn't really need footnoting in this list, as long as each item has a blue link. The title might need revision, but it's serviceable for now. XOR'easter (talk) 21:41, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per previous "Keep" votes. A useful and welcome list of amusing awards which does not duplicate listings within categories but, quite the opposite, sorts the awards under genres and specifications as well as providing descriptions of each award. None of that can be expected from categories which commingle all entries alphabetically.    Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:48, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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