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The result was merge to Imperial College Halls of Residence. Originally closed as a direct redirect but the target article is much shorter than this one so I'll properly close as merge instead. Tone 09:41, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wilson House, London[edit]

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Non notable halls of residence with WP:BEFORE showing no evidence of available sources Cardiffbear88 (talk) 22:52, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to Imperial_College_London#Student_housing per WP:CHEAP. Already mentioned in a list entry there (though it's unclear if that list is really warranted). AleatoryPonderings (talk) 23:09, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. The previous Imperial College Halls of Residence article was merged into the Imperial College London article, some years ago, after brief discussion at Talk:Imperial College Halls of Residence and a PROD, not a proper AFD. It is common and standard and good to have one or more list of buildings for a significant college/university, split out to prevent the main college/university article from being overwhelmed by this detail. See Category:Halls of residence in the United Kingdom and Category:University and college dormitories in the United States which includes dozens of these, as well as articles on individual residence halls/dormitories (which might meet wp:GNG and be legitimate, or which perhaps would better be merged into university-specific list-articles). Note, at Talk:Imperial College Halls of Residence it was noted by User:Le Deluge that "FWIW, I'd say a "List of..." approach like this article is probably the least bad approach. If you try to cram them all into the main Imperial article it starts to unbalance that article, and while the likes of Beit will certainly justify an article there's not really enough to justify an article on each individual hall. The comparison with Oxbridge colleges doesn't work, but most "posh houses in South Ken" are Grade II listed." That comment was ignored by the PROD, which should have been opposed at the time IMO.

Okay, to save time and get towards what is probably the right solution, i am just now restoring that previous article, and editing the College article to coordinate with that. I am not positive this list of dormitories should be separate from any other list of buildings of the College, but certainly there should be at least one list-article; it is reasonable to split this out of the College article and there will exist a large amount of cumulative coverage about individual ones or collections of them. Do note it has been accepted in Wikipedia to date that the list is valid material; this is just splitting it out and allowing for expansion. --Doncram (talk) 01:31, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge, probably to Imperial College Halls of Residence, as that has been restored, and as this one does not need to stand separately. --Doncram (talk) 01:19, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: The restored list-article links to Wilson House and also to similar Beit Hall article, which might also be merged to the list-article, with a note to its Talk page but without further discussion if it is agreed that Wilson House is to be merged there. Beit Hall and perhaps other individual buildings are listed buildings, but if they can reasonably be covered in one list-article they do not have to have separate articles. --Doncram (talk) 01:31, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to Imperial College Halls of Residence as before, as that feels like the right balance here. Le Deluge (talk) 12:40, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to Imperial College Halls of Residence. Not enough independent, in-depth coverage to warrant a standalone article. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:27, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as a listed building per WP:GEOFEAT.[1] -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:04, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• 'Merge' to Imperial College Halls of Residence. Not enough independent, in-depth coverage to warrant a standalone articleAuthor Sanju (talk) 14:25, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge, Has nothing to support a stand-alone article. Merge to Imperial College Halls of Residence Alex-h (talk) 08:06, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Draftify. Move to draftspace for future improvement with better referencing when available. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 22:55, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SP Cinemas[edit]

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Only produced one released film. Not notable in any manner. TamilMirchi (talk) 22:30, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep, from their website I found that they have produced/completed three movies (as added in the article) and two movies in pre-production stage, also distributed a movie which was released this year. So just to verify and give a point here, I contact them from the website and the reply is, the first production was released in 2019 and the next two movies were scheduled for release this year, but postponed due to the current lockdown situation. So, "only produced one released film" is a valid point which I also thought before creating the article, but also thought about like their reply "if there was no covid pandemic those movies would have been released by now" while checking their website and other related articles. Anyway it's upto the admins - whether to delete or merge/redirect now or keep the article and make improvements, because I have already used almost available sources and news links related to the subject/article. SidhardhRamesh ^💬 21:51, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment This person created the page and is connected to the house.TamilMirchi (talk) 01:19, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify: Until there are more sources. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:51, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify as per Kailash. Abishe (talk) 11:33, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Bena, Virginia. Make up your mind, people. Redirect is a compromise since you apparently can't. Content can be merged from history; if not, see WP:RFD. Sandstein 10:56, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Buck’s Store Museum[edit]

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All links appear to be PR or notices from the immediate area. DGG ( talk ) 21:53, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete or Merge to Bena, Virginia. While it has local exposure, it does not pass WP:GNG.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:29, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or Merge per Onel5969.s suggestion. I had hoped I would be able to dig up some newsprint from 1888-present, but I searched every way possible and found none. As it is this is a local curiosity and perhaps a source of pride for a small community. As WP:ATD-M would fit with our policy. Lightburst (talk) 01:02, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or Merge, I find no sign of notability, but as suggested above it may be a local point of interest so can be merged into Bena, Virginia.
• Delete or Merge - If even Lightburst was unable to find anything on this one, its probably a safe bet that it just does not have anything outside of very local coverage/notability. Rorshacma (talk) 18:18, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep or Merge -- Visitor attractions are worth having an article on. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:59, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:47, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Varadhi[edit]

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Couldn't find any notable reviews/sources for this film. TamilMirchi (talk) 21:47, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete No RS reviews available, fails WP:NFILM. --Ab207 (talk) 12:19, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete due to concerns around WP:NFILM and WP:GNG Spiderone 14:10, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 10:57, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rim El Benna[edit]

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Search shows this article and a ton of self published stuff (i.e. social media), not notability through reliable independent sources Naleksuh (talk) 10:50, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - per nom. Not notable - fails GNG. IWI (chat) 16:49, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep per WP:GNG. See What Women Want Magazine, Tuniscope Magazine. She also acted in an award winning film, Les secrets. I'm not sure of the significance of her role, but she's one of only five credited actors. Note that there's also a Palestinian singer with the same name (d. 2018), and that her first name is sometimes transcribed as "Rym". Searching for her Arabic name (ريم البنا) brings up many hits, but I don't read Arabic, so can't evaluate them. pburka (talk) 18:54, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Appears to meet WP:GNG. -DJSasso (talk) 00:46, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Coverage in multiple independent sources meets WP:GNG. Additional information can be found when searching for alternative English spellings for the first name (such as Rym or Reem) XVDC (talk) 16:28, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I tried to find sources and failed to get any. Mostly are about Rim Banna. I am not denying that there won't be any sources available, but Rim El Benna must not be confused with Rim Banna, because both are almost "similar names". Anyway's Pburka's keep argument has some weight. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 18:20, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:48, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hanmi Buddhism[edit]

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Fails notability guidelines for a church or religious organization. No reliable sources not affiliated with the organization appear to be available. --Spasemunki (talk) 20:46, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete as nominator. WP:BEFORE included looking for relevant sources in Google/Google News, JSTOR, the Digital Dictionary of Buddhism, and other general sources. Organization has a single location in Long Beach and an affiliate in Minnesota, but there seems to have been no English-language media coverage of them other than a single notice about relocating the temple in a local paper. Claims a centuries-old lineage, but searches for critical terms "Hanmi Buddhism", "Yu Tian Jian", "Dari Rulai" and "Dechan Jueren" reveal no reliable information specific to this group. --Spasemunki (talk) 20:46, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, fails wp:gng and wp:org. No significant coverage in multiple independent reliable secondary sources. JimRenge (talk) 09:51, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 17:14, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mason Vale Cotton[edit]

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This article was deleted and then recreated two times before, [2] [3] but also fails WP:NACTOR, to reflect its general notability. --122.2.10.69 (talk) 13:57, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination on behalf of IP. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 00:48, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete his career still has not amounted to being notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:13, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Neutral or weak delete his role as the title character in Hey Arnold: The Jungle Movie and as a recurring character in over 40 episodes of Desperate Housewives puts him at least in the grey area of WP:NACTOR criteria #1: Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. Two is technically multiple but as one of the roles was "merely" a recurring character, not a main character, it doesn't push it out of the grey area into "obviously meets the criteria." Nothing of value would be lost if this were deleted without prejudice to un-deletion into Draft: space when his resume is a bit more solid or directly to the main encyclopedia if he is "obviously" notable, such as by being nominated for a major award. I don't think it would benefit from being moved to Draft: space right now, since the notability issue is not something that can be fixed by editing. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment if there is no other personal information like birth date, which is invalid/unsourced. --122.2.10.69 (talk) 22:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I did find a source for his birth-date of June 25, 2002 in San Diego, California. I'm not sure if it is reliable, since it was copied from IMDB in 2014: [4]. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 01:14, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  I found that reliable source [5] to reveal exactly his own age, so this is the last option you've looking for. --122.2.10.69 (talk) 04:58, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  I should ask Denniss (talk · contribs) for that source reliability that provides year of birth? which is still unreliable. --122.2.10.69 (talk) 10:22, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Programming School++[edit]

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New page review: this has been sitting in the queue for six months. Various reviewers have looked at it but aren’t sure about notability so bringing it here for consensus. Mccapra (talk) 20:48, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - sourcing doesn't meet WP:ORGCRITE standards, primarily consisting of interviews and trivial coverage. I tried searching for better coverage but just found more of the same. There's also a pretty good chance that this was created by UPE. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:46, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Like Rosguill, can't find any better sourcing. Does not meet notability criteria.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:14, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete can't find any better sourcing. Does not meet notability criteria. Author Sanju (talk) 14:01, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Barely found anything about the school. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 05:11, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:43, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jeffrey H. Cohen[edit]

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He doesn't meet WP:PROF or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 20:27, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep. Passes WP:Prof#C1. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:19, 6 September 2020 (UTC).[reply]
• Comment, leaning keep. Scholar lists his h-index as 26, which seems insanely high for an anthropologist. I'm sure there are reviews out there of his several highly cited books, which I'll look for. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 05:20, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Passes both WP:PROF#C1 (heavy citations to his works) and WP:AUTHOR (multiple published reviews of multiple books, now in the article). —David Eppstein (talk) 06:18, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Clear pass of WP:PROF. -Kj cheetham (talk) 08:47, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Passes WP:PROF#C1 and WP:AUTHOR. XOR'easter (talk) 02:19, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, Article passes WP:PROF and WP:AUTHOR Alex-h (talk) 08:13, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. I would not call an h-index of 26 "insanely high" for anthropology. Even social anthropology, which seems to be what Cohen does, sits somewhere between the humanities and sciences, so one does expect publishing rates there to be higher than, say, for the classics professors. Still 26 is pretty good, and 5 top cited publications are at 200+. He also has several editorship (2 journals and a book series). So overall a plausible case for passing WP:PROF#C1. Also, based on multiple published book reviews, looks like passes WP:AUTHOR as well. Nsk92 (talk) 19:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 11:00, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Allen Evangelista[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 20:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete a non-notable actor who does not meet our arguably far too broad inclusion criteria.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:51, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:49, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Martens[edit]

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Borderline (hence it sitting in the CAT:NN backlog for more than 11 years) but I couldn't find the sources to show he meets WP:PROF or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 20:17, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete does not meet inclusion criteria for either academics or architects.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:04, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. More or less entirely unsourced, his citation record does not make a convincing case for WP:PROF#C1, and I don't see any other justification for keeping this. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:49, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:34, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bahman Tavoosi[edit]

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Semi-advertorialized WP:BLP of a filmmaker, not properly demonstrating enough improved notability to override the result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bahman Tavoosi just three months ago. Although this article is written differently enough that a speedy nomination on G4 grounds was already declined by another administrator, and thus can't simply be respeedied anymore, it isn't actually improving the case for notability enough to get kept — it's still referenced mainly to primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, such as film festival screenings getting sourced to IMDb, a WordPress blog or the film festivals' own self-published websites about themselves, rather than media coverage about the films — and the only two sources which are real reliable source coverage in real media (#2, Point of View and #3, National Post) don't add up to enough coverage to get him over WP:GNG all by themselves if all the other sources are junk. And winning minor awards at minor film festivals like Black Nights or Brussels Independent also isn't a notability clincher in the absence of better sourcing, either -- for a filmmaker, "notability because awards" requires major awards that get media coverage, not just any small fry film award that exists. None of this is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have much more quality sourcing than this. And furthermore, the article has been flagged for likely paid editing issues, which is a conflict of interest. Bearcat (talk) 20:01, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. I fail to see the basis for notability here and it does indeed read very much like self promotion or paid editing. Fails WP:GNG  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   21:41, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please note I have provided links numerous times from different links from different sources not by the artist yet still this article is subject to notability or PAID EDITING. Please read and check sources before such a claim. I spent many hours within the past couple of months to create the article yet you keep repeating the same claim over and over. There are plenty of sources available online from different film festivals to prove the identity of the artist and apparently he won few prizes this year only for his new documentary. Inception 111 (talk) 22:44, 6 September 2020 (UTC)inception 111Inception 111 (talk) 22:44, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A filmmaker does not get an article on the basis of having catalogue entries on the self-published websites of the film festivals where his films have screened — that's directly affiliated primary sourcing, not independent or notability-making reliable sourcing. A filmmaker's ability to qualify for an article depends on the volume of independent attention that has or hasn't been paid to his films by journalists and film critics in the media. But you've only shown two sources which meet that standard, which is not enough. And a filmmaker is also not handed an automatic notability freebie on the basis of having won just any award at just any minor film festival on the planet — to be notable for winning awards, a filmmaker has to win a major award on the order of an Oscar, a BAFTA, a Canadian Screen Award or the top tier of internationally recognized film festivals like Cannes, Berlin or TIFF. The Tallinn Black Nights Film Festival and the Brussels Independent Film Festival are not internationally prominent enough to secure the notability of a filmmaker all by themselves — if winning their awards is the only notability claim he has, that isn't good enough either. The extent to which any award counts as an article-clinching notability claim is always strictly coterminous with the extent to which media report the granting of that award as news. Awards that get covered by the media confer notability — while awards that do not get covered by the media, and thus have to be sourced to the awarding organization's own self-published content about itself because journalistic coverage about that award presentation is not available to source the statement to, do not. Bearcat (talk) 13:22, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per the very well reasoned argument of the nominator.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:22, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Stifle (talk) 09:45, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Anastasia Trach[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:NSPORT, but there is no SNG for volleyball that I can find so am bringing to AfD for consensus. There is a better profile than this article here. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 15:52, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment. On a second look, I noticed that the article says (without a source) she played in Petro Gazz Angels in 2018. As sport articles seem to be generally kept if an athlete has played in a professional league, I thought I'd mention that here. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 05:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I found no significant independent coverage of her that meets WP:GNG. All I found were some routine sports reporting and some listings in databases. Being a professional anything isn't grounds for WP notability and the Petro Gazz Angels appear to be more of a semi-pro team. I found no evidence she meets any notability criteria at WP:NSPORTS such as competing in the Olympics or at a world championship. Papaursa (talk) 03:24, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:43, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Xavier Britto[edit]

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Article undeleted at WP:REFUND. The subject is mentioned in passing in these references, but does not receive the in-depth coverage one would expect for passing WP:GNG. I am unaware of him passing any other notability guidelines. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED from being part of a notable family. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:25, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nom. I am the creator of the article.TamilMirchi (talk) 19:27, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - zero evidence of notability; possibly eligible for speedy delete due to article creator consenting to deletion Spiderone 10:20, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:51, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Greg Stotelmyer[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:JOURNALIST or WP:GNG. Has been in the CAT:NN backlog for over 11 years. Boleyn (talk) 19:19, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete very minor level sports commentator, the sources do not show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:28, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Only coverage of him (and there is not much) is very local. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 02:06, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:51, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alice Sargent Johnson[edit]

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Successful artist, but doesn't meet WP:ARTIST or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 18:41, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete I'm somewhat wary of WP:NEXIST in this case, but Google and Newspapers.com searches turned up next to nothing. The references in the article mostly point to illustrations she had done, rather than content about her. Curiocurio (talk) 13:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. There is an obit in the NYT ([6]), which ordinarily would indicate notability, but in this case it does not. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 02:04, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator with only keep !votes from others. (non-admin closure) AleatoryPonderings (talk) 01:56, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tod Hanson[edit]

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Has had success, but doesn't have the coverage or significance of work to meet WP:ARTIST or WP:GNG. Has been in CAT:NN's backlog for over 11 years. Boleyn (talk) 18:31, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep finding sources was hard slogging, but it turns out that he has done a number of high profile public artworks over the last decade (two in subway stations and a 7 storey-tall mural on a building at the London School of Economics). The quality of the available sources is not spectacular, but there is no doubt that he meets some basic form of GNG, and it's also possible that he may meet NARTIST through the creation of a well-known body of public artworks. I have added a number of sources to the article. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 00:00, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - The subject's works are displayed as public artworks, many of them permanent, including the first public artwork commissioned by the London Overground. These works and their coverage show notability and meet WP:GNG. The subject also passes WP:ARTIST. AuthorAuthor (talk) 02:42, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Withdraw nomination per excellent points above. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 05:42, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 19:23, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pablo Gazzarri[edit]

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WP:1E at best - a terrible story, but WP:NOTMEMORIAL and doesn't meet WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 18:28, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep Even by the grisly standards of the Argentine dictatorship the murder of a priest was unusual. There is a great deal of discussion about his case, albeit much of it is not in depth. Some of it is however is more detailed, such as this, here here [7] and here. It is certainly sustained over many decades in Argentina. Lastly, this case forms part of the ongoing discussion of the accusation that the Vatican supported the dictatorship, even to the extent of condoning the murder of some of its priests. This remains a topic of great controversy affecting the current Pope. Mccapra (talk) 19:25, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - as per User:McCapra (if you could add some of the sources you mention to the article, doubtless that would help greatly).Ingratis (talk) 14:50, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - per User:McCapra's detailed answer.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 03:20, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Stifle (talk) 09:45, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Selman Kadria[edit]

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An article created by a blocked sockpuppet that fails WP:GNG. There isn't a single English-language reliable source that mentions this figure nor the man he is purported to have killed. Currently largely unsourced. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 18:11, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Sources do not have to be available online or written in English. (WP:GNG). I have expanded the article with two articles by academic historians, a peer-reviewed article that discusses a folk song about him and a news piece which discusses the nomination process which the Prime Minister of Kosovo started in support of decoration of Selman Kadria as Hero of Kosovo. Numerous folk songs have been written about this figure, his tomb is a monument, streets have been named after and in 2019 the nomination process began for the HoK medal.

Side comment I found several sources for Milić Krstić in Serbo-Croatian media[8], but I haven't used them as they discuss topics beyond its scope. There's a photograph of Krstić's activities on wikicommons, which the nominator of the AfD, has also nominated for deletion. Apparently, the Chetnik commander Krstić was notable enough that a picture of him and his victims made it to wikicommons 100 years later.--Maleschreiber (talk) 04:13, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update: The Academy of Sciences and Arts of Kosovo published in 2013 the collected works of Ali Podrimja, who was well-known as a poet, but was also a columnist and a literary critic. He discusses Selman Kadria, Milić Krstić and Ramë Vuthi on p.53. It's another reliable source which highlights the enduring notability of the article's subject.--Maleschreiber (talk) 05:01, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Just because a sock created this article, that's no reason for deletion. As Maleschreiber showed, there are multiple examples which show the notability of Selman Kadria. The last Afd in 2016 also failed. Crazydude1912 (talk) 18:37, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep -- A person nominated as Hero of Kosovo (if true) is likely to be notable. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:55, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can verify the nomination via a google translate of the source. Some of these articles and similar articles about Belarusian figures who can't even get their names written correctly in international media - as of 2020! - indicate the inherent WP:SYSTEMIC problem that exists in coverage which we have to address in many cases.--Maleschreiber (talk) 23:30, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 19:19, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Case for Kosova[edit]

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Fails WP:NBOOK and doesn't meet any of the five standards of WP:BOOKCRIT. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 18:11, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: I haven't been able to find any reviews or any other coverage that could form the basis of an article about this book. Given the total lack of sources and the fact it's an edited volume, I don't think redirecting this to the author's article would be particularly useful. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:12, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete clearly does not meet our notability requirements for books.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:52, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Anna di Lellio has written/edited works which have seen many reviews. The Case for Kosova doesn't seem to have garnered a sufficient number of reviews which would make it pass the threshold set for notability.--Maleschreiber (talk) 04:37, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:30, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My Blood My Compromise[edit]

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Fails WP:NFILM. The only notable English-language references to it are found on en.wiki, IMDB , a promotional website and a brief profile published by the Brooklyn Film Festival . Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 18:10, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:53, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Akademeia High School[edit]

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Not notable, made solely for school promotion. All references from school site. Piotr Bart (talk) 17:52, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete an overly promotional article sourced entirely to materials from the institution itself.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:01, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Obviously a promotional entry, fails WP:NORG, WP:NSCHOOL. Np Polish interwiki is a red flag, also speaking as a Pole, most private high schools are relatively new and tend to be seen as places for rich bad students to buy a degree, and don't get much coverage, good or otherwise, and have next to no history. How come it has a Vietnamese but not Polish interwiki? Wonder if the WP:SPA which created it, almost certainly an undisclosed WP:PAID, threw in an extra article in their nativa language as part of the deal? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:35, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• 'Delete' it is a completely promotional article and i don't think that it is according to the nomsAuthor Sanju (talk) 14:28, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Tone 17:33, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Device ecology[edit]

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Essay on a probably non-notable neologism in technology and computing. Seng Loke, a computer scientist at Deakin University ([9]) is an author or co-author in all the works cited in this article. Searching for "device ecology" -loke on Scholar yields 177 results, which isn't nothing, but I'm not sure it's sufficient for a standalone article. For ease of reference, the top hits are doi:10.1145/2669485.2669493 (44 cites) and doi:10.1145/1520340.1520661 (10 cites). I considered a redirect to information ecology but it appears only vaguely related. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 04:08, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep [10] [11] [12] - A lot of articles in the literature that uses (Device ecology) - This is enough to pass WP:GNG. Charmk (talk) 13:54, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per WP:NOTCLEANUP. This is clearly a thing as we are increasingly surrounded by a plethora of smart devices. The term "ecology" may be even be quite literal as, for example, the lighting in my aquarium is controlled by an app on my smartphone or the ambient air is filtered by a networked purifier, which continuously monitors the air quality. It is regularly amusing when a video on one device says something which makes the other devices spring to attention, such as "ok, Google". You then get a babble as they start trying to talk to each other. Wikipedia already has AI bots and just wait until it is voice-controlled too... Andrew🐉(talk) 10:33, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 10:40, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hiru FM[edit]

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Though the radio station is quite popular in Sri Lanka, the article lacks reliable secondary sources and it's quite difficult to obtain reliable sources. Abishe (talk) 05:14, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Agreed, insufficient references. Whiteguru (talk) 09:05, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: There's no reason that this shouldn't persist as a stub that can be improved. A quick search for "Hiru FM" limited to .lk turned up several newspaper articles discussing the station that could be used to expand it. Carter (talk) 18:07, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: The only source in the article seem to be reliable. Search results return a lot of primary sources, notably from Hiru News. However, I found some reliable sources which talk about the station, whether fully or briefly: [13], [14], [15], [16], [17] and [18]. With these, the article is good enough to pass WP:BCAST. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 16:00, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. No reliable sources. Only passing comments. - Funky Snack (Talk) 10:44, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to 2021 New York City mayoral election. Tone 17:33, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dianne Morales[edit]

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Non-notable political candidate fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. Very little coverage of Morales exists apart from articles in Gotham Gazette and BeLatina. KidAd talk 05:45, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to 2021 New York City mayoral election. For better or worse, Wikipedia sets a higher bar for political candidates than it does for most other people, typically requiring some significant coverage of the person independent of the campaign to qualify for a stand-alone article. I'm not seeing that around, and even within the category of election-related coverage I'm not seeing a whole lot about Morales yet. Maybe WP:TOOSOON. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:54, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to 2021 New York City mayoral election where neutral information about all of the candidates can be added. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:27, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to the 2021 mayoral election article. With that election over a year away, it is too soon to really know who the candidates will be.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:23, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete but no prejudice against a redirect. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:28, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to AdventHealth. Stifle (talk) 10:40, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AdventHealth Sebring[edit]

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This hospital doesn't seem notable enough for an article. All the sources in it seem to be primary except for one. Which is about an anthrax scare, not the hospital, and it is a dead link anyway. I wasn't able to find anything else in a WP:BEFORE about it either, just trivial passing mentions in articles about other things. So, the article doesn't seem to pass either WP:GNG or WP:NORG.

• Comment lack of independent reliable resources. Tone is promotional. Priyanjali singh (talk) 07:11, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why not vote delete then? --Adamant1 (talk) 07:16, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adamant1, Yes, i am changing my vote to delete.Priyanjali singh (talk) 05:03, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to AdventHealth this would be the best thing to do with this article, it could become notable in the future. Catfurball (talk) 16:26, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment Was a WP:BEFORE performed on its original name - Florida Hospital Heartland Medical Center? – The Grid (talk) 20:58, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just to repeat what I said in the other AfD where you made the same comment, I'm not going to dignify the question with an answer except to say if you have multiple in-depth reliable sources about the hospital under its old names feel free to provide them. That's what people usually do in AfDs instead of asking superfluous questions. --Adamant1 (talk) 21:58, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Response made in other AfD. I meant nothing bad by it. – The Grid (talk) 00:00, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tone 17:32, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tarmali (caste)[edit]

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Not enough information here to merit its own article, can easily be folded in as a section of Pasi (caste). Would have started a merge discussion but creator has been reticent to discuss similar issues. Primefac (talk) 17:17, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete (the base name Tarmali is already a redirect). The only cited source says that Tarmali is a regional synonym for Pasi, not that it's a subgroup. Government sources also say that it's just a synonym. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:15, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - per Thjarkur Spiderone 23:04, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete-Per nom-- Padavalam  ►  14:34, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Per nom. Nika2020 (talk) 20:37, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Tone 17:32, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decade of Behavior[edit]

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This seems to a badly sourced article about a nickname American Psychological Association gave to the 2000s. Which, not surprisingly, apparently lacks notability. One of the references in the article doesn't even have anything to do with it and the other two are extremely questionable. So, I'm pretty sure this fails WP:GNG. Maybe instead of just deleting it the article could be merged with or redirected to American Psychological Association, but it barley seems worth it. Although, it is an option. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamant1 (talk • contribs)

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• Comment It was a PR initiative, but one in which multiple organizations participated [19][20], and about which independent sources exist. For example, Science reported on the early attempts to get it going [21]. I haven't yet seriously tried to sift through the 2,100+ Google Scholar hits for the phrase, some of which I expect will be false positives, but Baumeister et al. (2007) looks pertinent. If that is the reference which the nomination describes as not having "anything to do with it", then I'm a bit confused, since it contains language like this: It seemed an extremely wise move therefore when, impressed by the success of the brain decade, APA came up with the idea of making the first decade of the new century “The Decade of Behavior.” The goal was to focus attention on the contributions of psychology toward understanding and affecting important behaviors and consequent life outcomes, thereby adding relevance, credibility, and (one hoped) big research budgets to the enterprise. This emphasis was—or at least should have been—especially welcome to social and personality psychologists, whose research programs would seem to be in a position to benefit greatly from a renewed recognition of the importance of behavior. It is now past halfway through the putative Decade of Behavior and is therefore a fair time to ask, “How's it going?” In particular, how are social and personality psychologists doing? To anticipate our answer, we think they are doing fine in many respects—but not in respect to studying behavior. XOR'easter (talk) 18:53, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The key thing for me there was that the essay said "In particular, how are social and personality psychologists doing?" Which made it seem like the article was more about social/personality psychologists. The APA doesn't have a monopoly on everything related to behavioral psychology during that decade just because they came up with an initiative about it or whatever and I'd think for articles to count they would specifically have to be about the initiative. Not behavioral psychologists. Where it's only mentioned as a side thing. At least the other articles they actually have "Decade of Behavior" in the title. Whereas, "Psychology as the Science of Self-Reports and Finger Movements: Whatever Happened to Actual Behavior?", because again it's not about that. --Adamant1 (talk) 12:19, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. I looked at Google Books coverage: 1) several pages here (50-53), a section here (can't see the second+ pages in google preview, didn't check Amazon); many scholar works like [22], and this was also covered by ASA's Footnotes newsletter [23] and mentioned in passing in several others: [24]. I think this term can be said to have entered into the history of science and passes WP:GNG. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:10, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per identified sources. — Toughpigs (talk) 21:06, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Tone 17:32, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

John Papas[edit]

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Former American football coach. After a deletion at AfD 9 years ago (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Pappas, note the apparently wrong double "p") and a recent recreation, Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 August 29 decided to send the article back to AfD to re-determine the subject's notability. This is a procedural nomination, I am neutral. Sandstein 17:05, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete one year as lead football coach at a small college does not make one notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:17, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Meets GNG per [25] [26] [27] [28]. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 12:26, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep passews GNG as per the sources cited in the article and particularly the four cited above by Editorofthewiki. While it is true that one year as lead football coach at a small college does not make one notable, it also does not make one non-notable if there has been significant coverage. Coverage from the Boston Globe, Boston Herald, and ESPN takes this beyond what a "small college" coach might be expected to get. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 20:56, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  The Hall of Fame position is also significant for notability. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 20:58, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 10:53, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of programs for point cloud processing[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:LISTN or WP:GNG. Possible WP:ATD is merge to Point cloud but, certainly in its current form, this information would add little to Point cloud but take up a huge amount of space. Boleyn (talk) 17:00, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Only five have links to articles about them. Some have more than one link to their article on the list. Most of the blue colored links are to other websites not Wikipedia articles. Dream Focus 17:17, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - no evidence available to show that this topic has been discussed at length in reliable sources Spiderone 11:41, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 10:54, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Omsk Oblast road accidents[edit]

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No evidence of notability or that the subject has been discussed as a single topic. ─ ReconditeRodent « talk · contribs » 11:44, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete as per WP:NOTNEWS. Timofei Vatolin (talk) 12:14, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of DOS commands. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:54, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SETVER (DOS command)[edit]

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Article is WP:WWIN - WP:NOTEVERYTHING, WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Wikipedia is not a manual of DOS commands.   // Timothy :: talk  08:00, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Author info (WP:OR?): Maybe it's WP:SYNTH, but when EXE2BIN was pushed off the standard DOS disk in 3.3 (i.e. pay extra for a "goodies"/2nd disk), PC Magazine's (sarcastic) "Thank you, IBM" item showed how to patch the 3.2 version, to run on 3.2 or later. This may have been part of the History of Software for why "SETVER" was introduced: to minimize breakage and recognize customer pushback. Years later, when the US Airforce didn't agree with Microsoft's schedule for getting off Windows XP, the end-of-support date was extended. SETVER has a place in software history. (see Backward compatible) Pi314m (talk) 22:17, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment from nom: I think this is a case where Wikipedia:Notability (software) should be amended to account for command line tools. Under the current essay, the same tool distributed under an open source Linux would be notable, because of the looser source standard, but if it was distributed commercially under DOS or Unix it would not be notable, under the stricter standard.   // Timothy :: talk  23:07, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Agreed, Wikipedia is not a DOS manual. DEL Whiteguru (talk) 12:22, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Reply to Comment re Wikipedia:Notability (software): there is another article, Wikipedia:Software notability, and it lists "introduced an important technical innovation" and mentions "installed as part of the operating system on newly built systems." I agree that Wikipedia is not a DOS (or Windows: it's part of Windows 10) manual, but SETVER was an innovation. Pi314m (talk) 05:49, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge. First of all, this should not have been created under this title since SETVER already existed as a redirect to List of DOS commands. As it appears there no no consensus that this command is notable, content should be merged into the list where there is already a couple of sentences. MB 01:46, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect/merge to List of DOS commands. Wikipedia is not an MS-DOS manual. This is not a keep vote. Stifle (talk) 09:46, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete The article topic is not suitable for a Wikipedia page. Charmk (talk) 04:07, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:14, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of sportspeople by nickname[edit]

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Not needed; trivial and possibly WP:OR. Another point is that these sorts of lists will never be extensive exhaustive. There are millions of sportspeople on Wikipedia; if we were to assume that even only 1% of them had some sort of a nickname, we would still be talking about hundreds tens of thousands of nicknames. Also, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of association football players by nickname. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 15:12, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment. This is, in fact, at least the 6th nomination! pburka (talk) 15:18, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep the list is likely to aid readers in navigation and provide information per WP:NLIST and WP:LISTCRIT Lightburst (talk) 15:22, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - seems like a sensible navigational list. certainly the redlinks should be removed (as implied by the nominator, it would be absurd to try to create an exhaustive list of people with nicknames), and perhaps some additional sublists should be spun out, but that can happen at any point. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 15:29, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. What's the OR argument? This page has over 150 references. Please elaborate. pburka (talk) 15:43, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, I copied the sentence from the other discussion (where the article wasn't fully sourced). Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 15:47, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - if this AfD closed as Delete, shouldn’t this also close as Delete? They are very similar lists. Foxnpichu (talk) 17:15, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And if these are all sports related nickname lists which are allowed...Shouldn't we allow this list? Probably not because WP:OTHERSTUFF but you will hopefully get my meaning. Lightburst (talk) 18:27, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That list isn’t as specific. Foxnpichu (talk) 14:50, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, having looked through everything, especially the last AfD, I'm going to say Keep. Foxnpichu (talk) 09:11, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• KEEP Notable enough for news media to mention them, so notable enough to have a Wikipedia article. Dream Focus 20:56, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• KEEP Keep for all the reasons cited in the last five AFDs for this article. Worthwhile and useful lists. WP:Not paper. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:24, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - per consensus from the footballer AfD Spiderone 10:22, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically, the deletion cited is a reason why keeping this article is more important than ever. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:08, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep It's the nomination that we don't need as its arguments are flawed, being contrary to policy such as WP:NOTPAPER, which makes it very clear that there's no practical limit. We already have lists with hundreds of of thousands of entries. Notice that list of sportspeople, list of species and list of minor planets are all blue links, for example. When such lists get large, we just subdivide them. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:36, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sportspeople, species, and planets are all countable, and we can make exhaustive lists about them. We will never be able to fully determine all the notable nicknames. It's inevitable that some nicknames aren't going to be included. Whereas, all minor planets will be included, and all players who have made at least 30 international caps for Lebanon will be known. We will never be able to 100% know all sports-related nicknames. If the nickname is notable, it can be noted in the specific player's article. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 17:42, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm confused by this argument. These are all countable in the mathematical sense (they're not infinite). We can never expect to have an exhaustive list of sportspeople, nor of minor planets (on the other hand, numbered minor planets is just about manageable). That a list is incomplete doesn't seem like a good deletion rationale, and WP:LISTCRIT explicitly advises against trying to make most lists exhaustive. pburka (talk) 16:44, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Uncountable does not mean what you think it means. The definition is "too many to be counted". Even rice on a plate is uncountable (even though, obviously, the number of grains of rice can technically be counted). I agree, we won't have an exhaustive list of sportspeople; what we do have, however, are specific lists, such as footballers who have made at least 30 international caps for Lebanon (as I have pointed out above). Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 16:54, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Such lovely WP:FANCRUFT but it violates notability guidelines for stand-alone lists. This subject as a whole has not been discussed as a group or topic by independent reliable secondary sources, therefore the list is simply a directory or catalog and doesn't qualify to be a standalone list in Wikipedia. See also WP:WWIN, WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Normal Op (talk) 19:40, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • It hasn't been discussed as a group by reliable sources? Multiple books have been written about this topic. pburka (talk) 00:29, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. This is a staple filler of sports journalism, e.g. ESPN's "The List: Best of the best sports nicknames" (mostly people), CBS Sports' "The 18 Absolute Best Nicknames in All of Sports Today", etc. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:03, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per ubiquity of the phenomenon and discussion of the same in reliable sources. BD2412 T 05:48, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Socking aside, there appears to be consensus that coverage is not sufficient at this time to demonstrate notability. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:50, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Youth Against Rape[edit]

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This organization doesn't meet WP:GNG, WP:ORG and importantly WP:NGO. Out of 16 sources listed:

• 6 don't mention the organization
• 3 are pure listings
• 3 are primary sources like org's Instagram page, declared press release article, organization written article in user-generated content website
• 2 are same articles or sourced from same agency (TNN)
• The last 2 sources cover the cycling event organized and have 1 line each about the organization.

These sources don't provide significant coverage of the organization. Outside these sources also, there is nothing to indicate significant coverage and hence notability. Also entire page is written in PROMO style with a number of claims and works going uncited. Roller26 (talk) 16:33, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: I have added valid references to this page from News18 India, Dainik Bhaskar and other news sources, still there is significant coverage of this topic, the organization is involved in multiple notable events like cycle campaign(most notable). I understand there are some sections which does not cite any sources, I think if no source is found we should simply remove those sections from WP but keep this article since it is more than just a dictionary definition. This article qualifies requirements for WP:ORG. Their are many celebrities linked with cases given by them to National Commission for Women which is also notable. Thank you -- Pratyush.shrivastava (talk) 19:55, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note to closing admin - the keep vote above is from the article's creator -- Roller26 (talk) 23:24, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - I've cleaned up the article a bit (and have removed uncited parts). It needs work but meets notability requirements. The creator is new to wikipedia and I hope will learn the ropes quickly, we met at peer review. For me this passes WP:NGO and the "three best links" I would offer would be Times of India, The Indianness and Patrika. Mujinga (talk) 21:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mujinga, appreciate you mentoring a new user and showing them the ropes of WP. The above article is existentially dealing with 4 things : its founder Piyush Monga, cycle campaign, campaign of Youth Against Rape (YAR) and the NGO Youth Against Injustice Foundation (YAIF). The basic problem is what is the main thrust of the article and what is meeting the WP:GNG criteria. Both the earlier (pre-AfD tagged version) and later version (post-AfD tagged version) are seamlessly mixing all 4 parts in the article without making a clear distinction. For eg, the later added Controversy Section has nothing do with YAR or YAIF. Essentially in the article and in all the 5 sources added it seems to be the work of Yogita Bhayana from People Against Rape in India. Piyush Monga is just of one of the named parties in the defamation case, and I am not sure how that is relevant in the page of YAR (As we have to differentiate the campaign and organization from its founder). The three best links you provided me, essentially talk about the cycle campaign and make a passing reference to Youth Against Rape, which does not add up to significant coverage of Youth Against Rape (I also doubt that theindianness.com will qualify as Reliable source). The cycle campaign may qualify for WP:GNG but Youth Against Rape (or Piyush Moonga or YAIF) certainty don't at this stage. -- Roller26 (talk) 23:42, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree we don't need separate pages for YAIF (the NGO), YAR (a part of the NGO), Piyush Monga (founder of the NGO) and the cycle campaign (the most publicised part of the NGO's activity), so it's prob best to collec all the information on the one page. Mujinga (talk) 10:19, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Fails WP:NORG and also lacks substantial coverage about the subject. Passing mentions and off-topic content does not count. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 11:27, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: I have difficulty with references beyond the cycle campaign to establish WP:GNG. In spite of efforts to save this page - laudatory this campaign and efforts are - there is insufficient notablity. -- Whiteguru (talk) 11:53, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Non notable organization which has sure attracted some coverage but it is currently trivial. killer bee  14:44, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

::@K6bee9 Please clear what are you exactly referring to, WP:ORGDEPTH? For that I've added references in article please check them. You also used the word currently, if it is in the sense it does not qualify notability now and does earlier, please read WP:NTEMP. Thank you -- Pratyush.shrivastava (talk) 19:40, 7 September 2020 (UTC) Note: this user is blocked for socking.[reply]

*Keep per WP:ORG, WP:NGO and WP:GNG. I came in search of this page and found this deletion discussion. I think there are enough sources to meet Wikipedia GNG I read all the comments and I think there were low sources earlier, but now I checked there are 31 sources out of which about 10 clearly are media coverage of bicycle tour. Zerreat (talk) 08:37, 8 September 2020 (UTC) Note: this user is blocked for socking.[reply]

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Zerreat, the issue with the article is though the cycle campaign has received coverage, The page's title is Youth against Rape which has not received significant coverage. The page in current form was mostly edited, cleaned and lot of references were added after the AfD tag on 30-August. It still has only 86 words in the total article of 359 words (in readable prose) amounting to less than 25% coverage for the cycle campaign. The article doesn't differentiate between its founder Piyush Monga, cycle campaign, campaign of Youth Against Rape (YAR) and the NGO Youth Against Injustice Foundation (YAIF) and covers all of them equally instead of passing mentions. The three other topics are clearly non-notable. I also doubt the notability of the cycle campaign for a stand alone article as per WP:EVENTCRITERIA as lot of sources are essentially the same PR article. Roller26 (talk) 09:53, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The main title for bicycle ride would also be Youth Against Rape. The content is also good, I don't have much idea about older version but currently this article seems to be very clear about each aspect as you mentioned them. As I checked article, we just have very little details of NGO which is quite good and acceptable. I also don't think founder Piyush Monga is mixed somewhere in this article as this is all about Youth Against Rape and he is just a name in this. Zerreat (talk) 14:03, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Zerreat, The entire infobox with significant information is about the NGO. Its founder Piyush Monga is involved in a controversy covers the statement in the leading paragraph and section of its own. The idea of the NGO and its history covers more than half the section of the History section. So the only thing that you claim is notable (which I dispute under WP:EVENTCRITERIA) gets one statement in leading paragraph and less then half the content in History Section, equating to less then 25% coverage as per readable prose. Roller26 (talk) 16:21, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Roller26, I'll add some sources from hindi result (if it is allowed in Wikipedia), please check it for me and help me aligning them. I would also like to add the details of their tree plantation and their demands from those sources, can you please help me with that? I would be highly obliged. Zerreat (talk) 07:30, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Zerreat, sources from all language are allowed in English Wikipedia. Be bold and add these sources, in case any further formatting is required someone else or I can help with that. Roller26 (talk) 08:05, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete poor quality evidence for establishing notability. Georgethedragonslayer (talk) 11:34, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - despite the efforts to save the article, it is becoming clear that there isn't enough in-depth coverage from reliable third party sources; some topics just don't have the potential to meet GNG. Maybe in the future there will be enough coverage to create this again. Spiderone 21:34, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Tone 07:07, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Princess Anna of Bavaria[edit]

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Looks like deposed monarchy cruft, no sourcing to indicate that she is a notable author. PatGallacher (talk) 16:21, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Weak keep, I think she's notable enough as author and journalist (though the sources in the article don't really show that). Having an article about her and none about her husband seems about right. —Kusma (t·c) 20:47, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  And move to Anna von Bayern, her real name that she uses as author and journalist. —Kusma (t·c) 13:12, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Notable as writer/journalist - other languages also have articles about her but not about her husband. Oleryhlolsson (talk) 07:20, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete deposed monarchy cruft pure and simple. We do not defer to other language Wikipedias.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:28, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I know (as for the languages), I was merely elaborating on Kusma's point, that her husband don't have an article. Oleryhlolsson (talk) 01:45, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep for the reasons that Kusma mentioned earlier above here. Futurist110 (talk) 00:39, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Off-topic, but where is the deletion log for her husband's Wikipedia article? I can't find it! Futurist110 (talk) 00:43, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could it be, that he never had an article in the first place? I don't know..... (but you can find an article about him in Greek if you are realy interested!). Oleryhlolsson (talk) 01:40, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nope; he did. I clearly remember his article even from just a couple of months ago. Futurist110 (talk) 06:08, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Futurist110, digging through the history of d:Q7244150, it was PROD-deleted as Manuel von Bayern. Here's the deletion log. —Kusma (t·c) 08:43, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Still a notable author. TheodoreIndiana (talk) 03:00, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep: The princess may not be notable as a member of the former Bavarian royal family but as stated by Kusma, she seems to be notable as an author. She is also the Chief Corporate Affairs Officer at Coty Inc.[29]. Both factors combined together amount to a certain level of significance. TheRedDomitor (talk) 10:07, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I'm curious why there is so many Weak Keep's when there is virtually no coverage of this person. There should be reviews on Wolfgang Bosbach but I can't see it. I don't see sufficient coverage to satisfy WP:SIGCOV nor multiple reviews to satisfy WP:NAUTHOR scope_creep^Talk 12:21, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  [30], [31], [32], interview about the book. Not super great, but not "virtually no coverage". —Kusma (t·c) 13:11, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Move per Kusma. She appears to be best known as "Anna von Bayern." pburka (talk) 14:33, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete interviews do not count towards passing GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:55, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please don't !vote twice. pburka (talk) 17:12, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Johnpacklambert pls stop your "delete bomb" on AfD. Why always do you want to Delete wikipedia articles?, I'm so pity to you! If you do not want to help on AfD, it's Ok but pls be quite! Do not disturb. Your ignorant votes are very damaged on some good article and lost. You did a same mistake (vote twice) on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Princess Maria-Olympia of Greece and Denmark (2nd nomination). So what is your problem? I apologize please stop.... Hi! Dad (talk) 17:43, 8 September 2020 (UTC),[reply]
      • You do need to apologize for being rude and for defending useless monarchy cruft like this.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:24, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as noted in the discussion there is sufficient coverage out there to warrant an article. - dwc lr (talk) 17:26, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep notable as journalist and writer. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 22:40, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per all above. Notable writer. Ejgreen77 (talk) 10:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Move to her real name, not this pretend one, per Kusma.Smeat75 (talk) 21:26, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete None-notable author with a non-usable title. Typical monarchy fan-cruft. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 18:48, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep notable writer and position as Chief Corporate Affairs Officer at Coty Inc.. --Richiepip (talk) 03:08, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep As above, notable as journalist and writer.Deathlibrarian (talk) 05:50, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - per sourcing. Overall coverage and work within WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 10:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I have added some sources and information to the article. I think there is sufficient evidence that she meets WP:GNG. VocalIndia (talk) 18:21, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 16:11, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Encanto (Disney film)[edit]

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This is a recreation of Draft:Encanto (film). Consensus was reached two months ago that this article is not ready for main space and no new major developments. It still does not meet WP:NFF. It would be advisable to redirect this title to Encanto (film) once the article exists, as it is a logical redirect. BOVINEBOY2008 16:05, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per argument made by nominator. Also might want to look at the article creator's activity, as they have made some questionable edits. The Grand Delusion^{(Send a message)} 17:41, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - I echo TGD's concern. In particular that the creator of the page uploaded the copyrighted movie logo to Commons as part of this. -- Netoholic @ 19:27, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. No start of principal photography for NFF, and draftify isn't an option when it already exists in that space. -2pou (talk) 13:19, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete it is still too soon to have this article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:31, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as WP:CRYSTAL. A lot of films have preparatory work in place before ever getting really underway and end up canceled. My best guess is that the film will be made, and will be notable once it is, but my best guess is not good enough. I have no objection to the concurrent draft, though. TJRC (talk) 16:35, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Non-notable movie. WP:CRYSTAL, WP:TOOSOON. Just because it is being made by Disney does not make it notable. It's still an upcoming film and there are no reliable sources. (Granted, there are reliable sources to upcoming films but not this one.) GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 19:07, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Media Merchants[edit]

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Non-notable company, fails WP:NCORP JMHamo (talk) 15:31, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Clear consensus here that the sources proffered do not establish notability. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 13:53, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DJ Scandalous[edit]

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I would expect a 3x Grammy winner to have sources (and coverage) supporting such claims but alas, here we are. The sources in the article are all primary listings and unreliable (lyrics sites, etc...) appears to fail WP:NMUSIC Praxidicae (talk) 14:52, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - Hi! You need info on Kenny Bartolomei and grammy awards, here it is:

https://djbooth.net/features/2017-11-03-rook-justice-league-interview-beat-break

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/justice-league/profile/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.U.S.T.I.C.E._League

https://twitter.com/justiceleague?lang=en (their bio says three grammys)

https://www.facebook.com/JusticeLeagueMusic/posts/grammy-award-winning-producers-justice-league-have-released-their-::exclusive-new-/1169075936467410/

https://hiphopnc.com/5179756/j-u-s-t-i-c-e-league-working-on-slaughterhouse-album-video/

https://www.musicxray.com/profiles/8239

http://justiceleaguemusic.com/

If more articles are needed, please let me know. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scandalous2005 (talk • contribs) 15:11, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't mean he is a Grammy award winner. Praxidicae (talk) 15:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here's proof KENNY BARTOLOMEI is a grammy winner:

https://www.itsarappodcast.com/2017/03/15/the-kenny-bartolomei-episode/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scandalous2005 (talk • contribs) 15:18, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nomination, unless anyone can come up with a reliable source to prove that the subject has won these awards. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 15:36, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment @Scandalous2005, your username is very similar to the subject of this AfD discussion: please could you clarify whether you have a connection with him? ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 15:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - I don't have a connection with him personally. I'm just a fan of his. What about this article on the Grammy website?:

https://www.grammy.com/professional-development/video/justice-league-atlanta-music-scene-close-knit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scandalous2005 (talk • contribs) 15:45, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, here's another video. It's Kenny Bartolomei in the thumbnail. I guess I'm confused at how there's no believe he's won a Grammy when he was with the group until 2018 and they won the Grammy for Mary J. Blige's album in 2006.

https://www.grammy.com/professional-development/video/how-jazz-influenced-justice-league — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scandalous2005 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here's Kenny's name shown as apart of the Grammy winning collective J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League: https://ilovesf2.com/2011/06/07/j-u-s-t-i-c-e-league-for-crooks-castles-summer-2011/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scandalous2005 (talk • contribs) 16:03, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Last article unless I find a much better one. This has his picture with at the forefront with the other two members behind him. It also goes indepth about the Grammy win with Mary J. Blige with comments from Kenny.

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/behind-the-beat-justice-league-news.23006.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scandalous2005 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a photo of Kenny Bartolomei HOLDING his GRAMMY! https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSGnGcNufYP8v1J4NEET872TdplztZsJYtkTw&usqp=CAU — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scandalous2005 (talk • contribs) 16:40, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment notability is not inherited: is there any evidence that DJ Scandalous has done anything which might confer individual notability per WP:NMUSICIAN? ~dom Kaos~ (talk)
• Comment He appeared on Matt Houston's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Houston_(singer)_ "Racines" album under Sony Music France (https://www.allmusic.com/album/racines-mw0002406658) where you can see the music video "La Gogo" that has an intro from Styles P and Jadakiss of the LOX (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lox), a big rap group (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VR3X529-8U) and has collaborated with Trina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trina), Red Cafe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Caf%C3%A9) and others. You can see the video he's done with them in the "singles" section of this wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scandalous2005 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment His music spins in the UK. For example, he plays on Switch Radio 107.5FM (https://www.switchradio.co.uk/schedule) and had a live interview on 03 March 2020. Here's the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du2mCLFmRhM

Also, here's a bunch of articles on him:

https://www.indie-spoonful.com/post/dj-scandalous-move-on

http://www.aaamusic.co.uk/2019/09/18/aaa-music-approved-dj-scandalous/

https://inquamag.com/qna-dj-scandalous-reverbnation-winner/

https://www.the360mag.com/dj-scandalous/

https://www.thehypemagazine.com/2018/08/dj-scandalous-releases-quirky-visual-for-his-latest-single-move-on/

http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/djscandalous/

https://ventsmagazine.com/2018/08/07/interview-dj-scandalous/

Not to mention he was nominated for a Chicago Music Award last year which is sited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scandalous2005 (talk • contribs) 17:55, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I also found he was a songwriter / producer for a song called "The Dark Out of Nowhere" on the Soundtrack of "The Heartbeats" (2017) with Jay Weigel (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5281700/soundtrack). Here's a photo of them during that time. (https://www.instagram.com/p/BF5W1H7FbNC/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scandalous2005 (talk • contribs) 18:18, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Last one: apparently he produced the opener of the Guy's Choice: Perfect 10 on SPIKE TV in 2016 with Jay Weigel too. (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1060551854011318) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scandalous2005 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Maybe you should add the above information to the article itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirstjen (talk • contribs) 22:59, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I just added the new information to the article. Hopefully this helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirstjen (talk • contribs) 20:09, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - The above discussion is an awesome act of diversion, with paragraphs of useless blather about how somebody else (K. Bartolomei) won an award. Who cares? DJ Scandalous is under discussion here, and in Wikipedia, notability is not inherited. Some of his works have AllMusic listings but with no reviews or commentary, and he has been listed as present at various events. That does not add up to the "significant" and "independent" coverage requirements at WP:NMUSICIAN. All else to be found, including the many links copied above, are unreliable social media and streaming entries, plus reprinted press releases and friendly intro interviews. ––DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:12, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Despite the immense amount of text and evidence posting above, this remains an artist with no RS stating his notability. There is reference to him being a Grammy award winner, but he was part of a production team of a number of people who one the award, it wasn't to him specifically. Deathlibrarian (talk) 06:01, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per above. I agree completely with the characterisation of these "sources". Reyk _YO! 09:54, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nom withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Kj cheetham (talk) 13:31, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ed Dee[edit]

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This article has existed for 15 years with zero sourced. I nominated it for proposed deletion which was removed with not any attempt to provide any sourcing. My searches for sources came up with absolutely nothing that was the type of substantial source that would lead to the passing of GNG. Wikipedia needs to stop maintaining these unsourced articles for over a decade John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:51, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep. He has been the subject of at least two entries in other encyclopedias: [33], [34]. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 15:32, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - no evidence of anything that would meet WP:AUTHOR. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 15:46, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dom Kaos I think appearing in three reference works on American literature (I found another one after I posted and added it to the article) is very strong evidence of WP:AUTHOR #1—regarded as an important figure. Mind explaining why you disagree? AleatoryPonderings (talk) 15:53, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Reviewed in Kirkus, NY Times, Publishers Weekly, among others. Caro7200 (talk) 15:55, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@AleatoryPonderings, while he is mentioned in these encyclopedias, neither of them is listed at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. @Caro7200, I assume you're using Encyclopedia.com as the source for your argument, but without being able to read the entire reviews rather than just cherrypicked snippets, it's impossible to evaluate whether they are full reviews or (for example) two-line mentions in roundups of all the month's new releases. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 16:19, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, just a regular Google search. Caro7200 (talk) 16:22, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dom Kaos: Respectfully, I find your argument unpersuasive. There are hundreds, probably thousands, of encyclopedias published by reputable publishers like Gale and Palgrave (the publishers of the works I cited), and not all of them will be listed as perennial sources—by reason of space constraints alone. The same goes, of course, for books and journals published by reputable publishers. Rejecting sources simply because they are not listed as perennial sources seems unduly restrictive. For instance, neither the Oxford English Dictionary nor the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography—reference works of impeccable reputation—are listed there either. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:33, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: I think that the entry in The Encyclopedia of Murder and Mystery is relevant; individual books don't need to be listed in "perennial sources" to be considered reliable. Ditto The American Police Novel: A History, which appears from the snippets to discuss Dee in multiple places throughout the book. The Kirkus and Publishers Weekly reviews are also helpful. — Toughpigs (talk) 21:03, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy keep and stand ready to topic ban the nominator from deletion processes per WP;COMPETENCE. The nominator's statement that "This article has existed for 15 years with zero sourced" is plainly false. Since its creation, the article has been sourced in part to The New York Times "NOTABLE BOOKS OF THE YEAR: 1994", an annual list/article published in the Times Book Review in its first December issue each year (very occasionally on November 30 or December 8). The inclusion of a book on this annotated list also indicates that the book was given a full review in an earlier issue. When the article was created, editors who fetishize forms of citation were not indulged as they are today, and identifying one source and alluding to another was sufficient. When the nominator goes on to say "My searches for sources came up with absolutely nothing" for substantive sources, it's a confession of utter incompetence. The article asserts that this author has been covered in the New York Times and, unsurprisingly, just clicking on the NYT search link immediately turns up multiple reviews of this author's books, an announcement of his selection as a panelist in a New York Historical Society presentation on "Cops and Writers: Cops and Citizens Who Write About Cops", a solid indication of his stature/reputation in his field, and a piece on the effects of the WTC attack on New York crime fiction, where Dee is the first writer quoted. A GBooks search immediately turns up The Encyclopedia of Murder and Mystery, which has a full entry on Dee. The American Police Novel: A History has a mutipage discussion of Dee's work as well as mentions in a more general context. And there's his PW author's page, compiling their reviews of, I think, all his books, [35], as well as the reviews found by other commenters here. Let's be blunt: an honest, competent editor could not have said what this nomination says. And if this nominator isn't ready and willing to withdraw this waste of the communuity's time, it's going to be time to revoke their already-limited editing privileges in this area entirely. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong! (talk) 23:47, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per recently-added sources. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 07:13, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Withdraw Since there is clearly now the sourcing needed to keep the article. When I nominated the article there was no listed reference. Unsourced claims of past coverage do not count as references.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:16, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• You are, as is often the case, talking complete rubbish. The article referred to a specific, identified article in the New York Times. That's a source. There's nothing that requires a source to be in the form of a footnote. If you want to play games like that, you can go start Jeopardy-pedia and stop wasting the community's time here. And you still refuse to explain why didn't perform the simple, obvious task of checking the NYT for coverage, which any competent, good faith editor should have done. Haven't you embarrassed this project enough? The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong! (talk) 17:57, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. This can be dealt with by moving the page, which I have done. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 16:23, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Line(Taichung Metro)[edit]

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I am guessing previous prod was contested since the original editor removed it. I went to move the article to Blue Line (Taichung Metro) because of spacing issues on the title of this particular article. That’s when I found out I couldn’t move it because Blue Line (Taichung Metro) already exists which in turn redirects to Taichung BRT. It doesn’t make sense to redirect the article to a redirect which in and of itself is a redirect. BostonMensa (talk) 14:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:10, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Taiwan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:10, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Speedy move to Blue Line (Taichung Metro) The proposed move target currently redirects to the wrong article (title is about the metro but it's redirecting to the BRT). The only reason the move couldn't be done is that a bot fixed a double redirect. There still might be a justification to delete/redirect per WP:CRYSTAL, but otherwise Filing a technical move request per WP:MOR should resolve this AfD. Jumpytoo Talk 18:51, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Changing vote to speedy move. Jumpytoo Talk 20:06, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy Keep per above and WP:CSK #1. The nominator is not making a case for the article's deletion, but effectively a request to move the article to the correct title. Qualifying coverage of the proposed Blue Line includes: reporting from Eastern Broadcasting Company (generally reliable), Taiwan News (maybe reliable), and United Daily News, to name a few. -- Dps04 (talk) 07:17, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I really wasn’t trying to make an effective argument for deletion but I will try now. There is this article Blue Line(Taichung Metro) as well as Blue Line (Taichung Metro). The second one existed first. So, I couldn’t move the first article to the second one, appropriate spacing in the title, since an article by that name already exists. When I looked it up, I found it redirected to another article. So, to me, it doesn’t make sense to have article a → article b → article c. I have no opinion on whether or not b is appropriately redirected to c because I know nothing about the subject. I simply now I’ve come across pages where there is a comment that someone redirected an article that was involved in multiple redirects. I’m saying that the same should happen here. BostonMensa (talk) 13:13, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • This doesn't justify deleting the article, just moving it. If the move target already exists there are ways for an administrator to force a move. Jumpytoo Talk 20:06, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]