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The result was delete. Yunshui ^雲_水 07:51, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mallorie Rodak[edit]

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I'm not seeing any notability for this voice actress. No notable convention appearances. Sourced only by cast announcements and no major roles in major titles. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:30, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep Reoccurring roles as characters in various notable series means WP:ENTERTAINER is passed: "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows," Dream Focus 17:45, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

These are minor characters though so they are not significant roles. The series are not television but direct-to-videos. Those shows that actually made it to television (Tokyo Ghoul, Fairy Tail, My Hero Academia) she has minor character or guest roles. She is not made a significant guest list at any anime conventions. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:23, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Izetta:_The_Last_Witch#Main_characters had its episodes broadcast, and this voice actor played one of the two main characters. Other things have in fact been on television, not that that actually matters. It has a Wikipedia article, then it counts as notable by Wikipedia standards. I did look through various things on the list earlier before stating the article should be kept, but don't feel like sorting through it all again to find other examples. Dream Focus 03:32, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Again, these are titles that if she were the voice actress in Japan, it would be a major, but this is on an English dub that is direct-to-video at most, and not even something like Netflix/Amazon. Notable English voice actors also have a number of convention appearances or significant coverage articles, of which she has none, only cast announcements. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 13:31, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that as a rule anywhere.  Sounds like total nonsense you just made up.  These aren't just random people chosen for dubs, these are professional voice actors.  And whether something is made for television or internet broadcast is not relevant.  Millions of people use Crunchroll to watch anime on. To claim Netflix or Amazon is notable but not Crunchroll and Funimation, is ridiculous. And whether someone goes to conventions or not is not relevant to notability. Dream Focus 14:19, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Dream Focus: Was the English language version broadcast anywhere else than on internet streaming? There are no English language broadcast companies mentioned in the article or here. Is there any way of knowing viewing figure for individual animes on Crunchyroll? This might help to show notability because WP:ENTERTAINER requires that the show be notable. The Japanese version clearly is but the English version may not be. The notabilty guidelines for shows WP:TVSERIES state "Generally, an individual radio or television program is likely to be notable if it airs on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope), or on a cable television channel with a broad regional or national audience.". --Dom from Paris (talk) 14:50, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's out of context. It reads Generally, an individual radio or television program is likely to be notable if it airs on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope), or on a cable television channel with a broad regional or national audience. It is far less likely to be notable if it airs in only one local media market. Its showing that broadcast are more likely to be notable if broadcast over a larger area than just some local small town. That has nothing to do with internet viewing. And how exactly do you determine if something is notable in Japanese but not English? They review the first one out, then they don't usually review it again for each language its translated into. Dream Focus 15:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's not something I made up. It's stuff that I've used for AFDs for years. This voice actress has NO anime convention appearances. If she's traveling all over the country and world to appear as a invited guest, she is probably more likely to be notable and get mentions in newspapers for it. Not every Funimation voice actor is notable just because their name appears on a Funimation credit. Also WP:GNG is not something I made up. If you can provide articles that meet WP:GNG, then that overrides WP:ENT. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:19, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTABILITY is quite clear. A topic is presumed to merit an article if: It meets either the general notability guideline below, or the criteria outlined in a subject-specific guideline listed in the box on the right; It doesn't have to meet the GNG if it meets and of the SSG such as WP:ENTERTAINER. Dream Focus 17:04, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I'm not convinced by the reply to my question about the notability of the dubbed English version of a notable Japanese anime. So in the absence of enough reliable sources to pass GNG and the lack of information to show she passes NACTOR I'm afraid it's a delete for me. Dom from Paris (talk) 23:12, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Basically no reliable and independent sources, Google showed nothing more useful. Esw01407 (talk) 19:00, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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