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The result was redirect to Adam Johnson (footballer)#Reaction. If anyone wants to selectively merge content into the redirect target, it can be done by accessing the redirect history. (non-admin closure) SST flyer 06:53, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Margaret Byrne (chief executive)[edit]

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A chief executive who came briefly into the news because of her resignation over the Adam Johnson scandal. No other indication of notability; WP:NOTNEWS, WP:BLP1E. Donnie Park (talk) 14:55, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Vipinhari || talk 05:53, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Vipinhari || talk 05:53, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Northern Ireland-related deletion discussions. Vipinhari || talk 05:53, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Seems to have no notability outside of the Adam Johnson event. The only sources mentioning her seem to focus almost entirely on her role in continuing to allow Johnson to play for Sunderland A.F.C., which can be adequately covered in his article.This source says she was "dubbed the new Karren Brady" but she has nowhere near the CV of Karren Brady - indeed it suggests she was promoted way over her head. Incidentally I checked WP:FOOTBALL but could find no guidance on the notability of executives in the professional game.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:28, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wholly agree with the Karren Brady part, Brady had been covered by the media for an extensive period of time since the 1990s and Bryne only got a mention during the fallout of the scandal. Donnie Park (talk) 17:46, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Former executive officer at one of the richest clubs in the world. Passes WP:GNG also.--Donniediamond (talk) 14:21, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There are a long list of executives who have a long career with one company and what is the possibility of them having their own article, barely any otherwise a merge to article unless they have a major awards such as inducted in the industry hall of fame or have been extensively interviewed in business news. Unless she appear regularly on Bloomberg and CNBC as she only came on the media radar suddenly, it's fair that I stand by my decision. Donnie Park (talk) 17:46, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You mean in depth pre-Johnsongate coverage like this, or this, or this in the BBC or maybe being quoted in the Guardian helps?--Donniediamond (talk) 10:50, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why weren't these brought forward, otherwise I would not have to nominate this for deletion. Donnie Park (talk) 10:58, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't write the article, nor did I nominate the article for deletion, so you are probably asking the wrong guy. --Donniediamond (talk) 11:03, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Lots of coverage here.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 22:59, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So does some criminals and reality TV stars WP:NOTNEWS. Donnie Park (talk) 10:49, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Again you are ignoring her extensive pre-Johnson issue coverage. P.S. "criminals and reality TV stars" can have articles on wiki to you know. --Donniediamond (talk) 10:53, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I did not know about those (this post was posted at the same time as the other). Donnie Park (talk) 11:28, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment As long as the source provided by Donniediamond (talk · contribs) could be used, I propose to close this nomination. Donnie Park (talk) 10:58, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 23:54, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Adam Johnson (footballer)#Reaction - I see nothing in the sources provided by Donniediamond that further contributes to the notability of Ms. Byrne or provides any additional information. Being chief executive of a company does not automatically confer notability, nor does resigning from a company due to a scandal. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 00:29, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You are right being "chief executive of a company does not automatically confer notability" but what does confer notability is when there is significant independent coverage of the person for the role they have, which there is in this case, and much of it pre the Johnson case. --Donniediamond (talk) 09:22, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and Redirect to Adam Johnson (footballer)#Reaction - Agree with JKudlick. Not really seeing GNG here, some coverage of her appointment as chief exec, but no real detail and a couple of local articles. Any article on her would obviously be heavily leaning on her involvement in the Adam Johnson case, indicating BLP1E to me. However, coverage of her involvement in that case is significant so a merge to the more general topic would be appropriate. Fenix down (talk) 10:57, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Adam Johnson as above, sensible suggestion. Giant Snowman 18:19, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Adam Johnson (footballer)#Reaction- she fails WP:BLP1E as only really known for the Adam Johnson trial. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:27, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Adam Johnson and I nearly closed this myself as there's nothing for confirming a better independent notable article. SwisterTwister talk 06:16, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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