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The result was keep. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 17:18, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mary A. Conlon[edit]

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Does not appear to meet WP:BASIC. No WP:SIGCOV on her career. – DarkGlow • 16:37, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Walton High School (Bronx) at least if someone can find a source verrifying she was the founder. If not, we need to delete this. Since there are no sources, there is no verrified content to merge.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:47, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
~~Comment~~ Keep - Her obituary was in the New York Times [1], and I added that and a few more sources. I am looking for more sources as I have not yet found anything that specifically says she founded the Walton School, though she was its principal. DaffodilOcean (talk) 00:10, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe her obituary in the New York Times is WP:SIGCOV, and it's certainly a reliable source. Her work in establishing the Bronx Day Nursery is covered in a 1927 book on the Bronx [2]. The other citations confirm her role as principal of schools. I cannot find a citation for the school's first graduation, nor that she watched the construction of the school so I left ((citation needed)) in two places. DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:34, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are not weighing the fact she was local to the New York Times coverage area.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing in WP:GNG about locality of sourcing. That is a made-up requirement by people who want GNG to be based on significance when really it is based only on coverage. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:38, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, some local coverge clearly runs into problems of violating not news guidelines. We really should add better guidelines on local coverage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:21, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak~~ keep Even if you accept the argument that the NYT is more likely to publish obituaries about people from NY, it would still be equivalent to a state-wide newspaper, so providing SIGCOV. In addition with the paragraph in the 1927 book, that should just about establish notability. Femke (talk) 18:46, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'm finding more about her in Google Books, in particular this delightful (?)[3] lengthy testimony before a US Committee on Communist Propaganda, in which she gives details about a small number of students taking May 1 off, which was apparently a sign of dangerous communist ideas, and of pamphlets found in the neighborhood. Being called on to testify before a congressional committee shows her stature. She is also credited with running an experiment on the teaching of shorthand [4] and praised by the Classical Journal [5] for introducing the study of Greek in the schools. These all show that she was a significant educator. There are regular bulletins of the NY education department that we may be able to use to fill in some of the factual details and other hits on G-Books that I haven't gotten to. Lamona (talk) 21:37, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lamona - nice job on the added sources. DaffodilOcean (talk) 14:54, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. NYT obituary should be enough but the newly added sources strengthen the case for notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:30, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Enough sources have been located to clear the wiki-notability bar. XOR'easter (talk) 18:53, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets WP:GNG. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:14, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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