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The result was delete. ✗plicit 13:48, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Johnson (scientist)[edit]

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Science blogger. no signifcant publication so does not meet WP:PROF. I don't think there;s evidence here for WP:GNG either. DGG ( talk ) 09:58, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:09, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. XOR'easter (talk) 17:10, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Re WP:NPROF: assistant professor with reasonable but unexceptional cites. Re WP:GNG: no substantial outside coverage (that I can find) aside from the one blog article-let. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:04, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've only found the SciAm item already included and this. XOR'easter (talk) 18:06, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, saw the latter, but I'd characterize it as a plain CV copy that is listed only because Johnson is an African American. Not a great source. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:10, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. GNG doesn't appear to be met, and certainly not NPROF unless someone can demonstrate C7. Just an early-career researcher with early-career Scopus citations. Compared to his 94 coauthors with 5+ (a very low number in this field; some undergrads have that many papers!) papers: Total citations: average: 6597, median: 1795, Johnson: 547. Total papers: avg: 79, med: 38, J: 22. h-index: avg: 29, med: 20, J: 13. Top 5 citations: 1st: avg: 677, med: 344, J: 105. 2nd: avg: 428, med: 176, J: 94. 3rd: avg: 303, med: 148, J: 52. 4th: avg: 255, med: 113, J: 42. 5th: avg: 221, med: 105, J: 38. JoelleJay (talk) 19:51, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Genuinely interested in which undergrads you know with 5 papers JoelleJay. Jesswade88 (talk) 20:17, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Full disclosure, I made this page. Johnson may be a relatively early career scientist, but he's making waves nationally and internationally; e.g. he delivered the 2021 NIH Director's Early Career Investigator Lecture (https://www.nigms.nih.gov/News/meetings/Pages/2020-nigms-directors-early-career-investigator-lecture.aspx), given by one researcher across the states each year. Citation metrics are not a good estimate of who is / isn't a good scientist. Jesswade88 (talk) 20:17, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Too early. Giving an early career lecture is by no means sufficient for notability here. Reywas92^Talk 20:57, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:PROF#C1 does mention invited lectures at meetings of national or international scholarly societies, where giving such an invited lecture is considered considerably more prestigious than giving an invited lecture at typical national and international conferences in that discipline; named lectures or named lecture series. XOR'easter (talk) 21:17, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Does not pass WP:Prof on citations. I note that he has a large number of coauthors so it is hard to attribute independent achievement. Try again in ten years time. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:33, 9 October 2021 (UTC).[reply]
• Delete per Above. Maniik ^{🇮🇳Any Help🇮🇳? Contact Me.} 04:22, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. As above, maybe in 10 years. --Bduke (talk) 06:53, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Not notable as a biochemist or biophysicist. With a name like M Johnson he's not easy to search for without getting a huge amount of irrelevant hits. However, he has published mainly as MDL Johnson, which is much easier. He seems to have h = 11: not bad for a young assistant professor, but not wonderful. As Xxanthippe and Bduke say, maybe we should check back in ten years. Athel cb (talk) 08:40, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Certainly doesn't meet WP:NPROF. Not convinced meets WP:GNG or WP:NAUTHOR either. Probably a case of WP:TOOSOON. -Kj cheetham (talk) 11:02, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Johnson is well known for his science outreach advocacy in the minority in STEM community, including developing NSURP (summer research programs for Black and Latin students interested in science). The article needs substantial updating, though. eyoste (talk) 5:36, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

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