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The result was Delete. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 03:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Teen International (USA)[edit]

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Article describing a non-notable pageant. The event is on a far lesser scale than Miss Teen USA and, I think, even Miss America's Outstanding Teen (although the latter is a new pageant, it's ties to the Miss America pageant make it more notable than most of its predecessors. Having titleholders that either previously held other titles or went on to win titles does not convey notability. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 22:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Having contestants who have gone on to other pageants does indeed convey notability. This system is important to the history and development of those contestants. Deleting all information about this and the Miss International (usa) pageant would be a mistake and leave holes in the articles about those women. However, I would compromise for a merging of the two articles and an article on the international system as a whole. I do not know how to do that, though. Bebedebroadway 22:49, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Quarl ^(talk) 09:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete unless reliable sources are provided to establish notability. Having contestants who go on to participate in other, unrelated pageants doesn't make a contest notable. utcursch | talk 12:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Abstain I abstain Cman 23:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I'm beginning to have concerns about the nominator's agenda. The nom's comments include "The event is on a far lesser scale than Miss Teen USA", but the same editor nominated Miss Teen USA for AfD. (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss Teen America). Why use an article as a basis for notability comparison and then nominate that same article for deletion? --Oakshade 18:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC) Okay, I see there's a difference between "Miss Teen USA" and "Miss Teen America" and the nom had nominated only the latter. --Oakshade 20:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. --Masterpedia 02:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.