- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Claims of a lack of available source material were not refuted. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:44, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Mitchell A. Dubow[edit]
- Mitchell A. Dubow (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Subject does not meet WP:GNG or WP:JUDGE as a former lawyer and judge of a non-statewide court. Let'srun (talk) 15:46, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: Subject defended the rights of alleged communists before the House Un-American Activities Committee just as McCarthyism was emerging; his presence on Wikipedia helps researchers realize the extent of HUAC/McCarthyist efforts. I have updated the entry with further details that demonstrate so - Aboudaqn (talk) 18:36, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Aboudaqn These are all primary sources though, as far as I can tell? I'm finding a lot of glancing mentions in the Minneapolis star and tribune for him but nothing that looks like significant coverage. "Mitchell Dubow McCarthy" isn't turning up any promising secondary sources. -- asilvering (talk) 21:25, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:12, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I only turn up primary sources based on my WP:BEFORE, none of which seem to have significant coverage. If someone has access to local papers in Baltimore or Minnesota, there might be more coverage there. Ping me if sources are found. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:31, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:10, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Added further detail that establishes Dubow as a champion of promoting civil rights against loyalty oaths and disabilities, along with legacy of contribution cited by US District Court Judge Donovan W. Frank Aboudaqn (talk) 19:38, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. Plese re-review the article given its recent expansion
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:35, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The added sources all appear to be routine coverage to me. The WaPo article merely lists Dubow as one of several people who opposed a specific bill in Maryland. The citations to various cases don't actually give any information about him other than "Dubow participated as a lawyer in this case." The same goes for the HUAC source, where he represented a person interviewed by the committee. (If he himself had been interviewed, it might warrant inclusion). In sum, the sources added and already existing add up to "lawyer does lawyering." There is still not enough SIGCOV here for me to say he meets GNG. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:26, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete for lack of demonstrated notability. Source #6 (NYT) is a non-significant one-sentence mention. Source #11 is non-significant two-sentence mention. Source #13 is a non-significant one-sentence mention. Sources #1, #2, #5, #7, #8, #9, #10, and #12 are primary sources and do not contribute to notability. I was not able to access sources #3 and #4 (Washington Post), but even at the greatest depth, they combined would be one source and would not be sufficient to demonstrate notability for the article subject. All source numbers are from the references section of the current version (permalink). Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 02:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. Being an elected official usually establishes notability to some degree. NYC Guru (talk) 07:16, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.