The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Could probably be merged but no clear mandate from this AFD discussion to do so. Sjakkalle (Check!) 10:26, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

New South Wales University Theatrical Society[edit]

NUTS is a university club and could be deemed Not Notable, so should be Deleted. I suggest Merge/Rename into a broader article perhaps on clubs at UNSW in general Chanlord 03:15, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• This is Articles for deletion. Please only nominate articles here that you actually want to be deleted. Article renaming and article merger do not involve deletion at any stage. Uncle G 04:17, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Sorry to clarify; I put it up for deletion because it may well be suitable to delete it. I just thought it should be subject to a peer review Chanlord 04:24, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• At the moment, should be merged with the University of New South Wales article. Capitalistroadster 04:50, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I think that NUTS, as one of the university's oldest and largest societies, is deserving of a separate article. NUTS is an important breeding-ground for thespians in Sydney. Of course, this article could stand to be longer - or if there's not enough good information on it, merged with information on SUDS, TROUTS and DRAMAC (similar clubs at other Sydney universities). Joestella 05:29, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions.
• Keep per Joestella. Ambi 08:50, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with the university, otherwise delete. Not notable in its own right, although it is in the context of the university. Lord Bob 09:17, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with University of New South Wales Student Guild JPD (talk) 10:24, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• This would set up a precedent under which entries UNSW campus societies are included with an organisation that they may or may not be affiliated to. NUTS may not affiliate with the Guild post-Voluntary Student Unionism, and UNSW's largest student club certainly doesn't. Joestella 13:38, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• No, it wouldn't set up such a precedent, but if indeed there are (or may be) clubs and societies which it would not be appropriate to include at the Student Guild page, it would be better going at a UNSW Clubs and Societies page, which should probably exist even if there are pages for individual clubs. JPD (talk) 15:26, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Well there's no point having a circular argument about what constitutes a precedent. But if there are lots of less notable clubs on which information can be found, perhaps a general clubs page is the answer. But how would the (now quite detailed) UNSW Revues page fit in to this? Joestella 23:54, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Easily, because that page is not so full on content but full of lists of directors and producers. I wouldn't deem it neccessary to list such information on the Wikipedia page. So it could easily be merged to a clubs page with an external link to the revues website to obtain the full list of shows. But this isn't the place for having this discussion Chanlord 01:27, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Well then perhaps the solution is to simply merge what we have on NUTS and Studio Four into the UNSW Revues article and rename it 'Student theatre at UNSW'. And, as Chanlord suggests, save the past directors debate for that article's talk page. Of course, I'm new here and wouldn't have the first clue about how to make it happen. Joestella 01:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: I argue that it's notable. NUTS is a thirty-year-old society with strong traditions in the Sydney theatre community, and prominent alumni in the same. There is a wealth of information that could be added to this article. What it needs is not deletion, but expansion. (talk to) Caroline Sanford 11:42, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Just a note, NUTS was founded and affiliated in 1985 Chanlord 14:10, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete just one of millions of university clubs.--nixie 07:39, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep NUTS is UNSW's oldest club and its article has the potential to become much longer and detailed, although it is still just a stub. There is an argument for merging it with some other related articles, but certainly not to delete it. - Bambul (Talk) 06:01, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.