The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The subject has no significant championship wins to his credit so the question is whether the secondary sources are sufficient to achieve notability. Until the relisting opinion was divided on this question. However, the later commentators have had the benefit of examining the additional sources found during the AfD and have judged them insufficient. There is clearly scope for this page to be recreated if better sources can be located and added to the article, and I am happy to userfy it to anyone who wishes to develop it. TerriersFan (talk) 02:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nightmare (wrestler)[edit]

Non-notable wrestler with none-barely any information/references in the article iMatthew 2008 15:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. —iMatthew 2008 16:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment If anything asserts notability for this wrestler, it is in this article. Is this sufficient? I'm undecided. One one hand, we have decided that simply signing with a WWE developmental territory isn't enough (which this wrestler has not yet done), but he does have a story about him in an independent source. GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:48, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

However I don't believe that is enough to cover an article. iMatthew 2008 16:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This article has a notable source (and I added another notable third-party source recently - SA Music). Note: Can we get more people to vote? There's always 1 or 2 nominators who generally share the same opinion. Adding 3 more would provide a more decisive vote (whether that be keep or delete). Ajstyles tna roh (talk) 16:41, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, notability is not asserted. Darrenhusted (talk) 12:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note - at least three other professional wrestlers have performed under the name Nightmare: Diego "Nightmare" Sanchez (mainly in UFC and VPW [1]) and Jonathan Wehali (several organizations[2]). There was also The Masked Nightmare in NWA and Georgia Championship Wrestling. With sourcing, a dab page might not be unreasonable here.B.Wind (talk) 03:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ... and oh, by the way, I'd recommend a keep as part of a nationally touring troupe with regular media coverage in southern Africa. B.Wind (talk) 03:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
On the fence, the independent source helps with notability and so does being on The Sports Show. However, he hasn't been wrestling that long, and has yet to win a championship. If this is deleted, then I think there should be no prejudice for recreation if notability can 100% be established. Nikki311 23:01, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bearcat (talk) 06:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Does not assert notability, per nom. asenine ^{say what?} 09:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as wrestlingcruft.--Berig (talk) 17:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment This would be much more helpful is "wrestlingcruft" was defined. Please explain your comments further. GaryColemanFan (talk) 21:06, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - He does not appear to have won any championship and he doesn't appear to be very notable.--Berig (talk) 04:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.