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The result was redirect to Pep Guardiola. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:24, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pep Team[edit]

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This article is clearly exaggerated by fans of Barcelona cf. there are no references for any thing like the pep team anywhere, neither his article is using one. total WP:puffery. This article should be deleted immediately. Also, admins should notice that everything in this article is contributed by a single new user who is writing everything based on personal views. (completed nomination for 108.78.177.132) SwisterTwister talk 04:07, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I disagree. I only admit that I created this article, but I had to interrupt improvement of it because of my business trip. Probably next month I'll find more time to reedit this article. To reject the charges I can point out that (Firstly) a lot of people know that article's team was historically unique and there is many sources I can add (Secondly) For two decades I'm big fan of Real Madrid and generally I don't like FC Barcelona, but I appreciate;) Moreover, I'm not new user, I created or improve articles at four different languages Wikipedians. Of course, if admins agree with previous user, I'll accept it. Edamian (talk) 15:33, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The first and most important matter here is there is no such term as ' Pep Team', its neither official nor used anywhere. So you cant make a term for a team out of nowhere! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.78.177.132 (talk) 18:44, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well, your argument leads to undermine all terms given to great clubs f.e. Mighty Magyars or Golden Team or Wunderteam. Also basketball's Dream Team is unofficial. You said term 'Pep Team' is not used anywhere. Well, during one minute I found this:

http://www.marca.com/2012/05/22/en/football/spanish_football/1337706728.html (Marca)

http://www.frikipedia.es/friki/Pep_Team

http://vimeo.com/43308066

http://firstpost.com/topic/person/cesc-fabregas-fc-barcelona-guardiolas-era-pep-team-2008-2012-video-u_c2vU85Vks-55140-22.html

http://www.vavel.com/es/futbol/fcbarcelona/165984-diez-momentos-para-el-recuerdo-del-pep-team.html

http://www.svenskafans.com/spanien/Gastkronika-Dream-Team-contra-Pep-Team-404786.aspx (in swedish)

http://www.asromalive.it/2012/05/rassegna-estera-marca-il-pep-team-e-gia-nella-storia (italian)

http://www.realmadryt.net/news/Zaloga-Mourinho-zatopila-quotPep-Teamquot-7261 (polish Real Madrid fans site)

http://www.adevarul.es/stiri/sport/finalul-pep-team-mostenirea-lui-guardiola-cifre (romanian)

http://www.information.dk/172615 (Denmark)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_c2vU85Vks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyA649ORhxE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVN65JEBS_o

http://www.justzik.net/videos_96ceMX-LGqw__FC-Barcelona--M%C3%A9s-Que-Un-Club--2009-Pep-Team--HD-.html

http://www.justzik.net/videos_1hUzFsUF6k4__Barcelona-Pep-team-.html

http://www.totalbarca.com/2012/opinion-pieces/i-saw-the-pep-team-play/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hUzFsUF6k4

http://www.meczyki.pl/pep_team_vs_tito_team,1327,filmik.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GV2ECy2Zso&list=FL_-sOp5P7Hu-YECsLUi7FbQ&index=37&feature=plpp_video

http://www.facebook.com/pages/YO-VI-JUGAR-AL-PEP-TEAM/213446995351754

http://www.facebook.com/pages/BARCELONA-de-GUARDIOLA-EL-PEP-TEAM/219480651411069

Cheers ;) Edamian (talk) 11:04, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, most of your ref. you just gave are from YouTube, facebook and blogs (ALL POVS) these are not acceptable in Wikipedia. There is no official term as Pep team in the world!108.78.177.132 (talk) 19:43, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Especially, Marca, the biggest Spanish sport's newspaper :) In at least 7 countries term PepTeam is using. Mighty Magyars, Golden Team, Wunderteam or Dream Team is unofficial too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Team

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_United_States_men%27s_Olympic_basketball_team

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gal%C3%A1cticos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinta_del_Buitre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Gang

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os_Sant%C3%A1sticos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os_Magri%C3%A7os

Maybe next one, search pliz what (in semantic point of view) does the nickname or moniker mean. And, if I say that term XXX refers to YYY, is the XXX the official name of YYY? Edamian (talk) 08:53, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are 100s of ref for these and all of them were official terms. You are making up everything and moving away from the topic. This wont help you and this fan based article will be deleted.108.78.177.132 (talk) 14:25, 12 September 2012 (UTC) Your job is to convince other admins that this term even existed. You are not allowed to divert from the topic and point to other terms. This does not make it valid for a fake 'pep team' to exist in wikipedia108.78.177.132 (talk) 14:27, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Non-notable term that was (according to the discussion) just simply made up by a Barcelona fan. Zappa O Mati 23:45, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:24, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no evidence of any notability beyond a few fans. Giant Snowman 11:37, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Pep Guardiola - There is enough content for the topic to be a redirect and to be a subtopic with its own section in both Pep Guardiola and FC Barcelona: Significant content: Guardian November 3, 2008, Other content: Deutsche Presse-Agentur November 9, 2008, Sunday Independent April 26, 2009, Guardian May 29, 2011. However, the suptopic isn't ready for a Wikipedia:Summary style article since there is not enough content from reliable sources (which exclude youtube, etc. noted above) for a stand alone article. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:07, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 13:55, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:26, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:26, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I agree with Uzma Gamal, that this content can be merged into Pep Guardiola or FC Barcelona. However, the article is currently just a list of statistics that won't fit into any of those articles, and should be deleted. But yes, there is enough content in reliable sources to make it a sub-section of both Guardiola and Barcelona, but nothing in this article is worth saving. Mentoz86 (talk) 11:09, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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