The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. If anyone wants the deleted content for use elsewhere, just let me know. --jonny-mt 04:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Phantom Taoiseach[edit]

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Non-notable. An expression unfamiliar to the great majority of Irish people. Not substantively edited since its creation on 16 October 2005 Snappy56 (talk) 10:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - nominated by User:Scolaire but unfinished AfD. I think the article should be merged with Taoiseach. Snappy56 (talk) 10:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: I did not nominate the article, I ((Prod))ed it. If it has been brought to AfD so be it! But an article cannot be deleted and merged so you are opposing your own nomination. Scolaire (talk) 11:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am not opposing my own nomination, I did it on your behalf. An article can be deleted and merged if that is the consensus of the debate. It's not a yes/no question.

Eh, yes! The procedure for merge is so completely different from the procedure for deletion that you can only do one or the other. And it is your nomination. I never asked you to do anything on my behalf. Scolaire (talk) 13:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well in that case, I'm withdrawing nomination, and I will add a summary of Phantom Taoiseach into Taooseach. Phantom Taoiseach can then be deleted. Snappy56 (talk) 15:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: "Phantom Taoiseach was a term coined by Professor John M. Kelly". But the term died with him, if it even lasted that long. There is nothing in this article worth preserving. Scolaire (talk) 11:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Nothing in the article worth preserving seems overly dismissive, it's an esoteric topic but one of interest to students of Irish politics. A summary of the article can be added as a paragraph to Taoiseach article, as it is not particularly extensive. Snappy56 (talk) 12:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to the article on John M. Kelly. I don't see the notability value of this article as a standalone. Ecoleetage (talk) 12:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment: a redirect is pointless as nobody will ever type "Phantom Taoiseach" in the search box (per nom). The only links to this article are in the form of an (equally pointless) see also on three articles, one of which is also up for deletion. Scolaire (talk) 13:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  Update: as of now there are no links to this article, except on AfD-related pages. Scolaire (talk) 17:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Should links to the article be deleted before a decision is made .Garda40 (talk) 20:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think they can be. The value of the link is a separate issue to the value of the article. Anybody who disagrees with the removal of a link can always revert. Scolaire (talk) 21:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete It is a non-notable term. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 05:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. There is some useful material here, but I am uncertain whether there is sufficient notability for an article under this name. I hope the material herein can be used somewhere, say under Taoiseach or John M. Kelly. Bondegezou (talk) 09:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.