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The result was delete. The Bushranger One ping only 23:56, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Robin Hood Athletic Football Club[edit]

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Amateur club which has never played in the FA Cup or in the top 10 levels of the English football league system, the usual rule of thumb used by WP:FOOTY. DOesn't pass WP:GNG either -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:00, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note I think that should say "top 10 levels of the English football league system" or "7 steps of the National League System". -- KTC (talk) 19:28, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well spotted ;-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:06, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:00, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Guidance from people versant in UK League structure is required. -- Alexf(talk) 17:24, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
West Yorkshire is at Level 11/12, which is notwhere near the bottom of the English football league system, which appears to go down to Level 24 (Level 21 for a top division), and all of them are blue link. But that's just the league itself and not the teams. For the teams (or footballer etc.), it should be noted the usual articles standard are whether they have ever played in a high enough level, and not where they are now. (This doesn't matter for Robin Hood AFC whose article suggest they've played on the same league its entire history. -- KTC (talk) 19:40, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Westella shows in the Central Midlands Football League which is different but may have the same issue, with it and all its clubs. We need a review of this issue by people knowledgeable with UK Football. -- Alexf(talk) 18:12, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: For the record, both the CML and the WYL promote into the Northern Counties League as they are at the same level of the English footballing pyramid although the CML promotes more clubs into the NCEL than the WYL. To add one more point, I had intended to write articles for all the teams in the CML given that some teams already have articles, assuming there was enough material to source for information. However, since this discussion about deleting a WYL article, and now even a hint possibly questioning whether one of my CML articles should be deleted, I have refrained from writing any more articles as I'm not going to put in time to write articles only for people to suggest that they are deleted. Should it be decided to retain the Robin Hood FC article then I will look to complete the CML project whereas if it is decided to delete this, and any of my CML articles for that matter, then it is highly unlikely that I would make any further contributions to Wikipedia.(Rillington (talk) 01:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC))[reply]
Comment - Don't take it personally as it has nothing to do with you or your abilities. We simply have to follow the rules. There are notability rules for footy articles. Because the article is not bad per se, and not obviously or blatantly non-notable, it has not gone to speedy deletion but to AfD so the community can comment. Please make your voice heard. Read the pertinent rules, linked in the comments here and make your comments based on policy. Don't despair. Many of us (myself included) have had articles in AfD or PROD at one time or another. Some stayed, some were deleted. That's the way Wikipedia works. -- Alexf(talk) 01:16, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Thanks for that Alex. I'll try not to take it personally. I will start by conceding that the CML and the WYL is at level 11 so therefore it could be argued that all of my football articles should be deleted along with others already written which would leave the CML with some clubs having articles and others not which, looks rather odd and suggests the question to those who do not participate why some clubs have articles and others do not. All I wanted to do was to ensure that all the clubs in the CML, if possible, do have articles as the CML is a good standard and is a regional league rather than a local league and I was attempting to complete that task and have now put this task on hold. It is worth stating that some of the articles already there had featured clubs which had not previously been at level 10 and these had not been proposed for deletion although I see that an article for a HPL club, playing at level 12, has now been proposed for deletion. Frankly I think this uniform cut-off is tight and should be flexible to ensure that leagues do not have the situation whereby some clubs have articles and some do not. Finally, but equally important, surely people who make the effort to take time to produce articles should not see them deleted if they are factually accurate and contain material which is verifyable from elsewhere, and all my CML articles fit that criteria.(Rillington (talk) 00:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC))[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 05:07, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 05:07, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -Scottywong| verbalize _ 16:11, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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