The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was KEEP, national TV newscasters are noteable. Rlevse 15:53, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rosil Al Azawi[edit]

Appears to be a non-notable fashion model. Third party sources all but do not exist: [1], and the only claim to notability in the article is from the subject's own website. Thus fails WP:V and probably WP:BIO. The Evil Spartan 18:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Subject is an Iraqi TV presenter with a (former? current?) following in other Arabic-speaking countries. Article ~~needs~~ would benefit from expansion based on non-web sources, but does not fail notability test. People with similar roles in other countries are written up in WP and have survived AfDs (e.g. Lauren Newton (TV star)). -- Rob C. alias Alarob 22:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See my note below, and also WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. The Evil Spartan 19:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not saying "other stuff exists"; I'm saying the subject is already notable based on what we already know. I should have said the article would benefit from expansion, as I did not mean to imply that it will not be good enough to keep until it is expanded. I have amended my previous comment. -- Rob C. alias Alarob 23:56, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, national-level TV presenters are generally notable. The majority of sources are probably in Arabic, not English, and there are multiple transliterations between languages, so a simple search is generally not enough. Finally, misrepresenting a topic in order to jump-start an AFD is poor showmanship. --Dhartung | Talk 03:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide any of those sources? I would think that if there were such a plethora of sources, they would exist at least a little in Latin script (which French uses as well). Saying "other sources probably exist" is great, but we need some proof. The Evil Spartan 19:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iraq-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 16:37, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Gnan garra 14:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.