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The result was Delete--Tone 12:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Donaldson[edit]

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Contested PROD. Original concern was "No evidence that the player meets notability criteria for sportspeople as laid down at WP:BIO". PROD nomination was removed with the reasoning "evidence is provided that he is a pro footballer". Being a pro footballer is not enough to meet the notability criteria set out at WP:BIO. A player must play in a match at the highest level of the sport to be considered notable, and Ryan Donaldson has not done that. – PeeJay 20:23, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. – PeeJay 20:23, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. If he hasn't played first team football for a professional club, he isn't yet notable enough for an article. Looks like he will probably get there in a year or two.--Michig (talk) 21:02, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is that a vote for deletion? – PeeJay 21:07, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not sure whether he's played first team football yet. If not, then it's Delete, but I'm trying to find out one way or another.--Michig (talk) 21:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • According to the NUFC website, he isn't even in the senior squad yet, so is not sufficiently notable.--Michig (talk) 21:13, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails WP:BIO as he has not played in a fully-professional league. пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:08, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - as per User:Number 57 - fchd (talk) 22:20, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete No first team games yet, recreate when he's played for Newcastle Utd (or whoever). Nick mallory (talk) 23:13, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Nom makes the common error of presuming that one must play at the highest professional level of a sport in order to satisfy WP:BIO. In fact, the explicit criteria is that amateur players must play at the highest amateur level of a sport. Nonetheless, there may be no evidence that Donaldson has played in a professional match yet.  RGTraynor  04:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - has played in 9 matches for England Under 19s. -- Boothman _/tɔːk/ 20:34, 27 December 2007 (UTC).[reply]
  • Comment - this user does not seem to understand the notability criteria for footballers. Playing youth international football does not qualify someone as notable. – PeeJay 20:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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