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The result was keep. John254 00:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Adebisi Sosan[edit]

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Former speedied (G11) article, does a former primary school teacher, civil servant in local government and appointed (ie not elected) deputy governor of a Nigerian state pass WP:N? Dweller (talk) 12:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Umm, yes? Even if she was not elected (which apparently alot of politicians on Wikipedia aren't if they're appointed by some executive office), that still means that she holds some political office in Nigeria. I don't know how this article can be up for deletion if it is relevant to, and notable enough for, the governance of an entire government subdivision's administration. I can't conceive why this was speedied in the first place, either, which is why I restored it. --Toussaint (talk) 14:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I kind of agree, and kind of disagree, but mostly disagree, because a deputy governor is not "first-level sub-national political office", the governor is. Actually, more fundamentally, WP:POLITICIAN makes the point very well, "Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." If the article passed WP:V I wouldn't have nominated it. The article currently contains no references at all. --Dweller (talk) 16:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep She seems to be or have been "the Deputy Governor, who also doubles as the Commissioner for Education" in addition to other things. See http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Sarah+Adebisi+Sosan&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&um=1. Hobit (talk) 20:11, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, Dep. Governor of the state. Does that equate to "first-level sub-national political office"? I'd have thought that was the Governor, not the deputy. --Dweller (talk) 21:10, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Needs sourcing, but would we be having this discussion if Sarah was the deputy governor of a state or province of a first world country. Countering systemic bias is important. Lagos State is the Nigerian equivalent of a New South Wales, an Alberta or a Kerala and the deputy leaders of the government for those areas would certainly all be seen as valid topics. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 23:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Deputy governor of a state with a population of 9 million not notable? Come on guys, use a bit of common sense here. Would anyone dream of nominating an article about an equivalent US politician for deletion? I very much doubt it, so why do we have to waste our time discussing this article? And an admin actually speedied this? Phil Bridger (talk) 22:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.