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The result was Delete Nakon 05:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SlamTV![edit]

Delete - fails WP:WEB and WP:NOT#INTERNET. Non-notable webcast with no independent reliable sourcing attesting to its notability. Prod disputed by article's creator, who may have some WP:COI issues. Otto4711 (talk) 15:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Delete - I have no issues with you. I simply asked how I should improve the page, and I still don't know exactly what your asking for. I've been updating it though. The sources on it so far come from 6 places, their website, what you can call their second web site being the owners web page, their radio show myspace which I guess what you can say is a third site of theirs, 1wrestling.com, a press release posted on theburninghammer.com, and the latest webast. As stated before, an acceptable page, WWE Byte This! only shows one source and it's from their own site, and nobody has a problem with that. So I don't see how there are "no independent reliable sourcing attesting to its notability." I will continue to look for sources though, but I don't think I'll find much more seeing as it's between seasons. Juggalobrink (talk) 20:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For an article to be included in Wikipedia, the subject of that article must be notable. "Notable" means that there are independent reliable sources that offer substantive information about the subject. "Independent" means that the source must be unrelated to the subject. The website for SlamTV is not independent of SlamTV. The website for the Juggalo wrestling promotion, which produces SlamTV, is not independent of SlamTV. The website for Insane Clown Posse, the owners of SlamTV and Juggalo, is not independent of SlamTV. Press releases, Myspace pages, etc. are not considered reliable sources. There need to be sources that have no relationship to SlamTV, Juggalo and Insane Clown Posse. Articles in newspapers and magazines with reputations for fact-checking, for instance. Stories on websites with such a reputation. Evidence that the webcast has won notable awards. Something along those lines. I advised you to read the policies and guidelines that I linked to above to get a better understanding of the standards for inclusion. I searched extensively before I listed the article and could find nothing. Otto4711 (talk) 20:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. Sorry I didn't really understand what it meant before, all I got out of it was to use sources besides their site. I understand now. I'm still going to keep looking and adding varous references from other sites I find. Juggalobrink (talk) 21:24, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I've added more refs from sites such as wrestleview.com, wrestlingobserver.com, and wrestling-radio.com. Juggalobrink (talk) 23:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the existence of the WWE webcast or any other article has no bearing on whether this article should exist. Otto4711 (talk) 20:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Google Video, Youtube and in-house wrestling fan sites do not notable sources make. KleenupKrew (talk) 22:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. —Nikki311 00:10, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, While I appreciate the effort in trying to source the article, I still don't think this internet show is at all notable. Nikki311 17:37, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per nom. Cheers, L A X 19:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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