The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete Chris Chilvers, merge Smoke Radio to University of Westminster. Sandstein 07:37, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Smoke Radio, Chris Chilvers[edit]

Smoke Radio (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Chris Chilvers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

College internet radio station, and one of its presenters. No indication that the subjects meet WP:WEB or WP:BIO. Prod on Chris Chilvers removed without comment by apparent SPA. Fan-1967 18:54, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• I think the Smoke Radio article is keeep because it has won an award. -- Mikeblas 19:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Is it a Notable award? Based on their website ([1]) it looks like only about half a dozen school radio stations were represented, and just about every school nominated got an award in one category. (UTC)
• The awards were hosted by some of Britains top Radio DJ's including Chris Moyles. If that's not notable I don't know what is. And as for the show itself, it exists, it is broadcasing right now. Hell, click the Live Stream link. It's there, it exists, and is therefore notable. Stoobie_Land 17:56, 5 December 2006

• Comment It's existence was never questioned. The question is whether anybody's listening or cares. Alexa ranking ([2]) is about as low as you can find. There are few links to the site from anywhere else on the web ([3]). As for the awards, I cannot find any reporting about these awards in any major news source, which would indicate notability for the awards. Fan-1967 18:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge Smoke Radio to University of Westminster. -- Chondrite 20:48, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Chris Chilvers, unless user:Chilvers123 decides to contribute to something else, in which case it should be userfied. -- Chondrite 20:48, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge Keep Smoke Radio and Delete Merge Chris Chilvers into that article. There seems to be some non trivial coverage of the award (e.g), so I think the station should stay. A separate article on Chilvers is stretching the point a bit far, so I think that article should be merged into the station. -Kubigula (ave) 04:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment One two-year-old article on a website which itself doesn't seem that notable would not seem to qualify as "multiple non-trivial published works". -- Fan-1967 13:55, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't attempting to establish sufficient notability of the award for its own article, merely that it's not bogus. Nevertheless, Chondrite has convinced me that the radio station article should be trimmed and merged with the University article. -Kubigula (talk) 15:33, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge Smoke Radio to University of Westminster The Fox Man of Fire 19:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - merging to the Westminster article is not a bad idea in theory. However, they are both fairly long articles, which, I think, would make the merged article undesirably long and unbalanced. It also leaves the Chris Chilvers article issue unaddressed. -Kubigula (ave) 23:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's plenty of room in the Westminster article, not all of the minor details regarding the radio station need to be included. Chris Chilvers is not notable and does not need to be included. Chondrite 23:52, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Clear Delete. Not notable, even in the context of University of Westminster - might qualify for a single sentence in the main UofW article, at the most. Chris Chilvers is likewise not notable - he's just a student radio presenter. The award is not notable, and the attendance of a radio DJ at the presentation does not make it so. WMMartin 01:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge Smoke Radio, Delete Chris Chilvers per nom. --Wizardman 02:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.