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The result was keep. Sandstein 08:39, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Soch Kraal[edit]

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There is nothing in my searches which WP:V independently that he was a notable poet. Fails WP:GNG. Störm (talk) 04:47, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This brief news article Tributes paid to Soch Kral is the best English language reference I have found which may satisfy WP:V but not, I think, WP:BASIC. Anyone able to search in Urdu sources would be welcome to add to references. 24.151.116.12 (talk) 18:26, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Article requires independent coverage in English. English Wikipedia may not accept other language sources as per WP:RS @24.151.116.12. Genome$100 (talk) 13:21, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Genome$100:Who said you that? We wholeheartedly accept references in other languages.Winged Blades^Godric 15:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The policy can be read at WP:NONENG. 24.151.116.12 (talk) 18:32, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I read WP:NONENG three times, it does not say to not use foreign sources. --RAN (talk) 02:13, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think you may have misunderstood that I was citing policy to reply to Genome$100's surprising assertion. You read the policy the same as I do. As there are currently no Urdu sources in the article, however, the issue is not dispositive. 24.151.116.12 (talk) 18:58, 29 December 2017 (UTC) [reply]

Keep - I've added the source the IP mentioned as well as a couple other sources. The article still needs some work, but I think it passes V, NOR, and N. Addressing the nomination specifically, there is a mention of a performance of his work, where grouped with a few other poets, he is called on of the "Sufi greats that Pulwama has produced", published in the Hindu [1]. NPOV is an issue, I don't find any sources that are not at least somewhat hagiographic. Smmurphy^(Talk) 21:21, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I have some rudimentary Urdu skills, but don't find any reliable sources about the subject in Urdu. If there are any Urdu sources that might be useful, can someone link them? Smmurphy^(Talk) 02:52, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I think that Smmurphy's added references satisfy WP:BASIC in aggregate, particularly when keeping in mind the goals at WP:WORLDVIEW. One hopes that further references in English or Urdu may be found to improve the article in time. 24.151.116.12 (talk) 19:05, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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