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The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 06:52, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sophie Reiser[edit]

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Non-notable. --NilsTycho (talk) 06:11, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep. From what I can find, this person has played in Women's Professional Soccer, which is a fully professional league, and that would mean she is considered notable under WP:ATHLETE. The article had been vandalized with some nonsense claims which I have removed. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:14, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment From what I can find to date she has been signed by Chicago Red Stars who play in the (fully professional) Women's Professional Soccer initially as a developmental player, then promoted to the first team squad, but has yet to play a competitive match that I can find. I have only managed to find an exhibition game - all others she appears to have been an unused substitute (and therefore does not pass WP:NFOOTBALL under that criteria. --ClubOranje^T 10:06, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • According to our article on the team, the Red Stars play in the Women's Premier Soccer League, which is not fully pro..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:27, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Learn something new every day! I wasn't aware they had switched to WPSL - thanks--ClubOranje^T 09:48, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 17:59, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - yet to make her pro debut, so fails WP:NFOOTBALL. Also fails WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 18:00, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per me above, still unable to find evidence she has started in a league game for Red Stars, besides which they only play a semi-pro league, therfore fails WP:NFOOTBALL. Some coverage of the girl, but mainly general sports journalism hyping the move of a local girl to a bigger club. --ClubOranje^T 09:48, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Coverage is way beyond WP:ROUTINE. Also won NCAA awards etc. to pass notability guidelines for amateur college athletes. Clavdia chauchat (talk) 21:38, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Ultimately fails WP:FOOTYN and WP:GNG until she plays in a WPS game. Did not win a national individual award in college, so also fails WP:NSPORTS#College_athletes. Vanadus (talk | contribs) 19:31, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Passes ATH 4.1 C.2 NFOOTBALL by meeting GNG - [1][2][3] ---Freja Beha Erichsen (talk) 21:31, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong sport. Plus WP:ROUTINE anyway. Vanadus (talk | contribs) 21:49, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, try reading carefully WP:ROUTINE ---Freja Beha Erichsen (talk) 22:11, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NSPORTS interprets WP:ROUTINE: It excludes the majority of local coverage in both news sources and sports specific publications. It especially excludes using game play summaries, statistical results, or routine interviews as sources to establish notability. The first source is a WP:RSOPINION and third WP:SPS. Vanadus (talk | contribs) 22:31, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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