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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 08:22, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

South Korea v Germany (2018 FIFA World Cup)[edit]

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Non-notable World Cup match with no long-term implications that are independent of other matches. SounderBruce 04:27, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Per nom, just a routine match that doesn't need its own article and lack of sources show it isn't notable. Article also has a lot of issues. JC7V (talk) 04:48, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nom, unexpected result but not notable enough for a dedicated article. The match is adequately summarised at 2018 FIFA World Cup Group F#South Korea vs Germany. S.A. Julio (talk) 07:07, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Why should this article delete? This match was chosen 2nd most surprised game by Daily mail.조재범 (talk) 07:42, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Daily Mail is an unreliable source and is banned from use on the English Wikipedia. SounderBruce 16:31, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 11:38, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Looking at my first search result, I found that the BBC called this "one of the biggest shocks in the competition's history." The article had no citations except FIFA.com, but surely there are plenty of reliable sources. I added three citations, there seem to be plenty more at w:ko:대한민국_대_독일_(2018년_FIFA_월드컵). Jack N. Stock (talk) 13:41, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete nothing more than a surprise result. Kante4 (talk) 17:32, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - no need for this to be an article; enough detail in the article on the World Cup group Spiderone 19:16, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete not the most shocking result ever, the Daily Mail is sensationalist rubbish which can't be trusted, and not many other sources to pass WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:25, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with 2018 FIFA World Cup. Vorbee (talk) 07:30, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The content of this article is more in line with 2018 FIFA World Cup Group F, rather than the main article. SounderBruce 07:46, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Point taken. I am happy change this merge to a merge with 2018 FIFA World Cup Group F. Vorbee (talk) 18:22, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to 2018 FIFA World Cup Group F; the match was surprising enough to be a plausible search term. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:17, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• delete folk content with 2018 FIFA World Cup Group F and nothing special, but there is nothing to merge Hhkohh (talk) 00:42, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: this match is not special. --Garam (talk) 17:20, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete It's a world cup game, of course it's going to be notable, nomination and those piping fails notability need to go read what notability is about!! This is simply content forking, as noted above, it's already covered by other articles. Govvy (talk) 23:13, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Per WP:SPORTSEVENT, every World Cup match is not inherently notable without significant coverage. The infamous Mineirazo meets notability criteria because it had widespread repercussions and was covered by non-sports media internationally beyond a normal World Cup match that has been sustained for several years. A random World Cup match like Peru vs. Iran from 1978 has received no such continuing coverage and is thus ineligible for a separate article barring some sudden and major development of interest. SounderBruce 01:37, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • @SounderBruce: I actually think that WP:SPORTSEVENT is poorly written, World Cup games are easy to source, the Sporting event is the World Cup, each match can easily pass GNG, there are multiple sources by all different media news outlets. However this is editorial, how do you display and write each article, what's the case for independent articles separated from the main article about the event. This is when information gets too much for an article and need to be forked. GNG applies to the first instance, it doesn't need to be applied to the second or third account. Govvy (talk) 12:08, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • The third point is key: A game that is widely considered by independent reliable sources to be notable, outside routine coverage of each game, especially if the game received front page coverage outside of the local areas involved (emphasis mine). World Cup matches are widely covered but this is very much in the definition of routine (for a World Cup match). A rule of thumb is whether the specific match permeates beyond normal media and has lasting effects. Almost all World Cup matches fail this criteria. SounderBruce 16:58, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply O well, often I feel it's like talking to a brick wall, interpret what you want. Govvy (talk) 18:09, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - fails WP:GNG, no coverage that isn't run of the mill. Nothing really to merge. The last 3 defending world champions have been eliminated in the world cup group stage so Germany's early exit in 2018 isn't really that noteworthy really. Inter&anthro (talk) 03:11, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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