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The result was delete. Sandstein 09:20, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sultana Yeasmin Laila[edit]

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She won a singing competition.Nothing more, nothing less.No significant coverage outside of a BLP1E perspective. ∯WBG^converse 06:29, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:NMUSIC. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 06:50, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 06:59, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 06:59, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 06:59, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 06:59, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As per nominator fails WP:MUSICBIO. Fit India 10:04, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete since subject fails WP:NSINGER. We had SPAs; now we seem to have camo SPAs. They never sleep. -The Gnome (talk) 12:42, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Collapsing discussion about editor integrity, unrelated to the AfD. -The Gnome (talk) 12:18, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Self-defence[edit] To the honorable wikipidian :@Winged Blades of Godric:, :@Fitindia: Firstly I want to say sorry cause there was a typo to add the Record Labels and the label was not listed in the Lists of record labels. It has now fixed up. I am strongly agree with you that this people who is relates to this content has no significant coverage outside of a BLP1E perspective. But this content may deserve it for an independent article cause, a page CloseUp1 describes the person who has no information and we know articles of Wikipedia provide links designed to guide the user to related pages with additional information. As this person won an award by performing on a reality show of a renowned television channel named NTV so this content follows the rules of the Criteria for musicians and ensembles WP:NMUSIC and WP:MUSICBIO. Has won first place in a major music competition named CloseUp1 which follows the rule 9. I have includes information following the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia that can be verified through permanent documents of independent sources which published by renowned newspaper of Bangladesh, not self published content and not relates to me. @The Gnome: I have clarified myself at the talk page but think it is needed to repeat it again here cause your sounds made me a advertiser and a promoter from a volunteer. For this why I am repeating it again for your kind information. I wanted to publish the article via draft validation and wait for a positive reviewed result for publishing. but it is a matter of sorrow that after staying 5 days in reviews :@202.125.65.146: user have deleted this content and removed from submission. As a volunteer we need inspiration, hope none of expected such kind of sound. There is no financial benefit to me and this person is not related to me. I had done this job as a voluntary work. You've mentioned me as They never sleep, you can but I can't think so. I have come here to be a contributor nothing else. This is my first article in Wikipedia and which is going to be deleted for my mistake, realized that I have to study more here and have pass more times here. In this circumstances I pass my free time here by reading and revising. I have not created account here Single-purpose. Finally sorry for descriptive writing, Please don't feel hurt my sound. Waiting for closing the discussion and publish the content. Thanks to all voters in advance for voted by the way of positive. Thanks and regards Md. Giashuddin Chowdhury (talk) 18:16, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply] Thanks for the comments, Md. Giashuddin Chowdhury. They are appreciated. As far as I'm concerned, I typically assume that people come here to contribute in a manner they believe to be positive and contructive. Yet, I must add that the content of our contributions cannot be always up to our objectives. Sometimes, I may be a fan of notable person XYZ and contribute to the article "XYZ" with text that is promotional. I do not need to be a PR agent or a paid editor for that. We assess texts on their own merits. Take care and keep up the good work. -The Gnome (talk) 18:28, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply] Welcome and Thanks for your appreciation. When a people write about a singer, a writer, a player or such kind of public celebrity it may occur. But Wikipedia consider the value of content and the information of the related people. I am sorry I feel hurt by your voice. Please don't mind I am frankly saying. The Gnome. Regards Md. Giashuddin Chowdhury (talk) 18:40, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply] @Winged Blades of Godric:, :@Fitindia:, :@The Gnome: when I clarify myself, you gone to the content matter and when I talk about content you attacked me personally. I have written details about content and clarify myself. This content may be deleted or consider according to the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia & close this talk page, It was my duty to clarify that I followed the rules and content not violate the rules, nothing to say more. Thanks to all. Md. Giashuddin Chowdhury (talk) 01:28, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply] No one attacked you personally, Md. Giashuddin Chowdhury. The two editors you accuse of a personal attack simply commented on the merits of the contested article. And I assessed the text as "promotional." Please revisit WP:AGF. No reason here to get emotionally involved. (This is my last comment in this AfD.) -The Gnome (talk) 06:20, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply] NMUSICBIO is one of the guidelines that is miles away from the established practice.It needs a major overhaul.∯WBG^converse 11:45, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply] ∯WBG^converse yeah, you're right, I believe this too. This content killed my valuable times and I can't wast anymore. You can do what goes as per content policy of Wikipedia. How many days it will be taken to delete this content and closed this discussion? Thanks for your response time to time. Finally sorry for disturbing. Md. Giashuddin Chowdhury (talk) 12:53, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Collapsing discussion about editor integrity, unrelated to the AfD. -The Gnome (talk) 12:18, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Self-defence[edit]

To the honorable wikipidian :@Winged Blades of Godric:, :@Fitindia: Firstly I want to say sorry cause there was a typo to add the Record Labels and the label was not listed in the Lists of record labels. It has now fixed up. I am strongly agree with you that this people who is relates to this content has no significant coverage outside of a BLP1E perspective. But this content may deserve it for an independent article cause, a page CloseUp1 describes the person who has no information and we know articles of Wikipedia provide links designed to guide the user to related pages with additional information. As this person won an award by performing on a reality show of a renowned television channel named NTV so this content follows the rules of the Criteria for musicians and ensembles WP:NMUSIC and WP:MUSICBIO. Has won first place in a major music competition named CloseUp1 which follows the rule 9. I have includes information following the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia that can be verified through permanent documents of independent sources which published by renowned newspaper of Bangladesh, not self published content and not relates to me.

@The Gnome: I have clarified myself at the talk page but think it is needed to repeat it again here cause your sounds made me a advertiser and a promoter from a volunteer. For this why I am repeating it again for your kind information.

I wanted to publish the article via draft validation and wait for a positive reviewed result for publishing. but it is a matter of sorrow that after staying 5 days in reviews :@202.125.65.146: user have deleted this content and removed from submission. As a volunteer we need inspiration, hope none of expected such kind of sound. There is no financial benefit to me and this person is not related to me. I had done this job as a voluntary work.

You've mentioned me as They never sleep, you can but I can't think so. I have come here to be a contributor nothing else. This is my first article in Wikipedia and which is going to be deleted for my mistake, realized that I have to study more here and have pass more times here. In this circumstances I pass my free time here by reading and revising. I have not created account here Single-purpose.

Finally sorry for descriptive writing, Please don't feel hurt my sound. Waiting for closing the discussion and publish the content. Thanks to all voters in advance for voted by the way of positive.

Thanks and regards Md. Giashuddin Chowdhury (talk) 18:16, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments, Md. Giashuddin Chowdhury. They are appreciated. As far as I'm concerned, I typically assume that people come here to contribute in a manner they believe to be positive and contructive. Yet, I must add that the content of our contributions cannot be always up to our objectives. Sometimes, I may be a fan of notable person XYZ and contribute to the article "XYZ" with text that is promotional. I do not need to be a PR agent or a paid editor for that. We assess texts on their own merits. Take care and keep up the good work. -The Gnome (talk) 18:28, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome and Thanks for your appreciation. When a people write about a singer, a writer, a player or such kind of public celebrity it may occur. But Wikipedia consider the value of content and the information of the related people. I am sorry I feel hurt by your voice. Please don't mind I am frankly saying. The Gnome. Regards Md. Giashuddin Chowdhury (talk) 18:40, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Winged Blades of Godric:, :@Fitindia:, :@The Gnome: when I clarify myself, you gone to the content matter and when I talk about content you attacked me personally. I have written details about content and clarify myself. This content may be deleted or consider according to the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia & close this talk page, It was my duty to clarify that I followed the rules and content not violate the rules, nothing to say more. Thanks to all. Md. Giashuddin Chowdhury (talk) 01:28, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No one attacked you personally, Md. Giashuddin Chowdhury. The two editors you accuse of a personal attack simply commented on the merits of the contested article. And I assessed the text as "promotional." Please revisit WP:AGF. No reason here to get emotionally involved. (This is my last comment in this AfD.) -The Gnome (talk) 06:20, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NMUSICBIO is one of the guidelines that is miles away from the established practice.It needs a major overhaul.∯WBG^converse 11:45, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

∯WBG^converse yeah, you're right, I believe this too. This content killed my valuable times and I can't wast anymore. You can do what goes as per content policy of Wikipedia. How many days it will be taken to delete this content and closed this discussion? Thanks for your response time to time. Finally sorry for disturbing. Md. Giashuddin Chowdhury (talk) 12:53, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:18, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Doesn't this meet WP:MUSICBIO#9 "Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition."? We just kept a third-place winner of American Idol, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gabby Barrett. Thsmi002 (talk) 12:05, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can we really claim that TV reality shows qualify as "major music competitions"? -The Gnome (talk) 12:18, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like Reality competition shows such as American Idol do qualify. At least, that is what I have casually observed in reviewing other AfDs. I have never heard of CloseUp1, but it appears to be the Bangladeshi equivalent to a national singing competition. The winners of other seasons also have articles. Thsmi002 (talk) 12:39, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That AFD was an aberration.On a sidenote, Bangladesh hosts a whole lot of private musical-talent-searches and it's insane to consider every one of them as an equivalent of American Idol.∯WBG^converse 12:44, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's bad luck for me, Thsmi002, and bad luck for Wikipedia if we don't change that deal!

-The Gnome (talk) 07:40, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:NMUSIC.--SamHolt6 (talk) 07:49, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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