The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep disambig; relisting the correct article Thames Valley College (London, Ontario, Canada) for clarity. Opabinia regalis 23:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thames Valley College[edit]

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Please note: Since this article was listed AfD several new articles relating to the article in question have been created by TruthbringerToronto (Talk. Additionally, TruthbringerToronto moved the article being considered for deletion to Thames Valley College (London, Ontario, Canada). For clarification, Thames Valley College (London, Ontario, Canada) is the article that is being considered for deletion, NOT THE DISAMBIGUATION PAGE. It is suggested that voting is left open for 2 days extra since at least one voter thought that the article being considered for deletion was actually a disambiguation page.

Nomination: This article appers to be an advertisement for a Diploma mill. See my comment in the article's talk page for more info. This article either needsto be deleted or transformed, so that it makes the true nature of this "organisation" is made abundantly clear, especially considering that prospective "students" may use this article to research the subject. Also the article's contents are not verfiable and the organisation(s) is/are not notable. As such the article in question should be deleted. -*- u:Chazz/contact/t: 15:07, 2 December 2006 (UTC) (edited: 10:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC))[reply]

• Delete as and per nom ---*- u:Chazz/contact/t: 15:10, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Not a diploma mill, but rather a career college in London, Ontario, Canada which offers training in areas such as medical office administration. It does not offer degrees. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 22:10, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No it isn't See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unaccredited_institutions_of_higher_learning#United_Kingdom and London Medical School ( http://www.londonmedicalschool.org/wst_page2.html ) - not to be confused with the many genuine, lawful and high-class medical schools in London. Why would a supposed legitimate education institute be investigated by Trading Standards. -*- u:Chazz/contact/t: 20:41, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. The early edit history of the article does not help its case. --- RockMFR 05:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, it may be better to keep the article but heavily re-word it so that it reflects the suspicions about the subject. Specifically mentioning its apparent links to London Medical College, which has a Mobile/Cell Phone for its main contact and an accomodation address fax number. It would also be beneficial to mention the fact that London Medical School was recently investigated by Trading Standards. -*- u:Chazz/contact/t: 20:31, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete and mark the others for speedy delete. Obvious commercial spamDGG 03:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Delete now that I know what article we're lookign at. The lack of info about anything, including its own site, points to a possible mill. --Wizardman 16:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete The article makes no claim to notability. There's thousands of career colleges, unless it's otherwise notable, it shouldn't have an article -- Chabuk ^{[ T • C ]} 18:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

• To reduce confusion, I moved the page about the institution in Canada to Thames Valley College (London, Ontario, Canada) and created a disambiguation page at Thames Valley College. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 01:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Most of these institutions that you have listed don't exist. The ones that do are diploma mills. If you disagree please provide evidence to the contrary. These articles cannot remain as they are. -*- u:Chazz/contact/t: 18:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Then nominate them for AfD then and we can discuss. JYolkowski // talk 23:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Please read the article. People are confusing two different institutions. If one or more of the London-area schools are diploma mills, prove it with independent references. Do not apply that term to institutions that are legitimate, such as Thames Valley University or the Canadian college. If necessary, start an article on a school which you consider a diploma mill with appropriate references. If you feel that the Canadian college is not notable, then make that argument. Or edit the article to remove ambiguity. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 04:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We, well I at least, have read the articles. That is why we are voting to delete -*- u:Chazz/contact/t: 09:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also references have been provideed. ---*- u:Chazz/contact/t: 10:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• No they shouldn't, these articles are quite different in content from this one. JYolkowski // talk 23:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The following votes relate to the wrong article

• keep please this is a helpful disambiguation page nothing else really Yuckfoo 05:02, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but you are mistaken. Maybe the comment at the top of the page was a bit too ambiguous, I have therefore changed it. The original article was moved to Thames Valley College (London, Ontario, Canada), by TruthbringerToronto and that has created confusion. Can I ask that you revise your vote with this new information in mind. -*- u:Chazz/contact/t: 18:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

*Weak Keep, disambiguation pages don't hurt anyone. --Wizardman 02:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Sorry, but you are mistaken. Maybe the comment at the top of the page was a bit too ambiguous, I have therefore changed it. The original article was moved to Thames Valley College (London, Ontario, Canada), by TruthbringerToronto and that has created confusion. Can I please ask that you revise your vote with this new information in mind. -*- u:Chazz/contact/t: 11:56, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.