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The result was redirect to Princeton University#Campus organizations. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:25, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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There is no SNG that confers automatic notability on a topic just because it's associated with an Ivy League school, and indeed our Ivy League articles have historically suffered because of reticence to upmerge non-notable subarticles. This is a prime example.
The initial source is a single quite small paragraph on page 458 of The New Princeton Companion (published by the university's press), very questionable for SIGCOV. Beyond that, there's media coverage of an event that mentions The Prog only trivially as a co-sponsor, and limited coverage from Princeton-affiliated sources which do not count toward notability per RSP.
This article was recently created, and after conferring with the NPP reviewer, Rosiestep, I redirected it to Princeton as an ATD. The article was restored, so I am bringing it here now. I am often a proponent of being lenient on newspaper articles, given that we often cite them and it's in readers' interest to be able to look up their reputation. But that sort of IAR argument doesn't apply well here, since The Prog is quite different from The Daily Princetonian — it's an opinionated political journal rather than a campus-focused publication of record, and it's cited less than half a dozen times on Wikipedia (compare to The Daily Princetonian's 400+). ((u|Sdkb)) talk 16:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Princeton University § Campus organizations, where it's given an appropriately due one-sentence mention, as nom. If Student life at Princeton University becomes an article someday, perhaps it could have a paragraph there. ((u|Sdkb)) talk 16:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: News media, Politics, Education, and New Jersey. ((u|Sdkb)) talk 16:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect per the above. Bestagon ⬡ 17:26, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Princeton University#Campus organizations per Sdkb. Sal2100 (talk) 21:11, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as is. The Princeton Tory is the conservative counterpart to The Prog and is cited 7 times on Wikipedia, but they have an independent page. Most of the citations on that page come from Princeton University sources, and most of the remainder do not mention The Tory at all. The number you cited also does not count the former domain of this publication, princetonprog.com, and citations that do not link the website.
- The events shown in the article demonstrate that The Princeton Progressive has had a notable impact on American politics, as for instance the Frist filibuster was widely covered nationally, with some sources centering the publication in such events, explicitly. One outlet solely cited the Princeton Progressive Review as the organizer of the two-week event, while the other did not cite it as a co-sponsor, but as a co-organizer. 4kbw9Df3Tw (talk) 09:26, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The Princeton Tory is WP:OTHERSTUFF, and it may be worth looking into whether it needs to be AfDed as well. ((u|Sdkb)) talk 14:08, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you have a response to the rest of the comment? 4kbw9Df3Tw (talk) 17:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- princetonprog.com turns up one citation, so there is no hidden cache being ignored. I believe I addressed everything else in the nomination. ((u|Sdkb)) talk 14:31, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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