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The result was Strong Keep. Phgao 02:37, 21 October 2007 (UTC). W.marsh 14:04, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Saturnine[edit]

See comments on AfD for Eric Hazebroek (uses self-citing websites, no outside sources, also coming up are other bands that fail notability guidelines) Phgao 10:43, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Non-notable band, fails WP:MUSIC. Keb25 11:03, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep. Notable band, guitarist has deal with Mayones Guitars also. Bobsbasement 11:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Another person who does not sufficienly explain themselves, and looking at [1] does not seem to realise the guidelines for Wikipedia articles either. I suggest to closing admin to disregard him, even though RfA is not a vote. Phgao 07:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A major endorsement deal with Mayones Guitars is a notable thing. I suggest to closing admin to ignore Phgao Bobsbasement 06:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you want me to go there, I will, I will refer any admins to [2] to see how reliable bob is. Phgao 06:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. the drummer plays with Bumblefoot (Guns'n Roses), guitarist plays with Stream of Passion, drummer has deal with Sabian, and S-Hoop. Eric Hazebroek 11:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Um, yes the drummer played with him, and I even can't find any proof of that as there are no sources cited in [3] nor can I find his name in [4], not to say that I don't believe you, but you need to give refs. Phgao 07:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This band had released two albums and received positive reviews in the music press. This band also contains at least one member who was once a part of a notable band. --S iva1979^{Talk to me} 12:03, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You might need to review that as the albums are self released as as such have no backing from any notable recording studio. POsitive reviews? You mean 2 reviews as one is double referenced, and if news press for you is a 3 paragraph 10 min job, or a user written review then that's ok. But clearly the news reviews are by nn websites that should not be cited. Phgao 07:04, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This seems like a notable band to me. STORMTRACKER 94 14:02, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is not a vote. Seems like does not cut it frankly, please either review what you have written or if you can't be bothered to have a decent look at the article, please refrain from commenting. Thank you for your consideration :) Phgao 07:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I could argue this one either way. Some of the members appear notable, but the whole recording output are 2 (self-released?) EPs, and I can't find much in the way of reliable sources, although there might be more in other languages. Too close to call. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep. Notable band, meets WP:MUSIC. Add more external sources perhaps. 203.220.107.23 07:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, biased nomination. --Sn0wflake 17:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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