The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Soxred 93 22:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Simpsons DVDs[edit]

Unnotable DVD releases from a single television series. Yes, The Simpsons is a huge show, however, its DVD releases do not need such an excessive list, which violates not a catalog and not a directory. This level of detail is appropriate for a sales listing of the DVD, not Wikipedia. The pertinent information, such as release dates and regions, are already fully (and better) covered in List of The Simpsons episodes and the individual Simpsons season pages, as noted in the Television MoS. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. —-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments-I see where you are getting this from, but this does not violate WP:DIRECTORY as it is not a sales catalog, a list of non-encyclopedic associated terms, a directory, nor is it a list of loosely associated topics. Like WP:DIRECTORY#1 states, there is nothing wrong with having lists if their entries are famous because they are associated with or significantly contributed to the list topic, this list is associated with the famous entry, The Simpsons.SRX^--^Latino Heat 20:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is also extremely redundant, and giving extremely undue weight to a very common element of a television series. There is nothing striking, notable, or unusual about the Simpsons DVD releases that warrant such excessive and extensive coverage. Its already covered in the individual season episode lists, the main episode, and the main Simpsons article. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 21:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I need to correct you on one part. While the DVD boxset information is in the season page, it is only a small portion of the article. The rest of these DVDs are not covered anywhere else on wikipedia, except for in a small summary section in the main The Simpsons article and a couple episode articles mention that that specific episode is in a certain DVD release. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 21:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's all that is really needed. Wikipedia is suppsed to be an overview, and not provide minute detail on a topic. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 00:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is true, Weak Delete per nomination and WP:UNDUE.--SRX^--^Latino Heat 21:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Obviously notable and easily sourcable. The AfD smells of WP:POINT. Dekkappai (talk) 23:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Further: DVD releases are notable information which should be included in articles on a TV show or film. What makes this particular article on DVD-releases exceptional is its size. When any one section of an article becomes too large, it is broken away. This is an article which breaks information away from a very large subject. To delete this article, or any similar article such as Looney Tunes Golden Collection: Volume 1, etc. is to declare that DVD releases are not information which should be included in any article. I don't think Wikipedia has yet declared this. Dekkappai (talk) 23:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - *ahem*. The Loney Tunes collection was considered an exception, due to their unusual nature. Deleting this article does not in any way say that DVD information doesn't belong on Wikipedia, its saying don't give it undue weight, don't go into excessive detail about them, just not e it was released in DVD sets where appropriate, and that's that. It is extremely rare that a television series' DVD releases would require its own article to provide an adequate OVERVIEW, versus minute detail. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 00:15, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - You're saying it shouldn't be a stand-alone article. Then do we merge it into the main article? No, because the article is already too large. These DVDs can very easily be sourced, and the article can be expanded to include more information on them very, very easily. Dekkappai (talk) 00:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - It is already covered in the main article. It is also already covered in every last episode list. I'm saying this is excessive detail that rather than being shoved off to some other article, it should have been trimmed down and kept under control. This sort of detail would be like listing the page counts, number of images, number of sentences, number of words, etc for a book. Just because the information may exist and can even be sourceable does not mean it should always be included. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 00:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep per Dekkappai. Wezzo (talk) (ubx) 15:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: After checking into things I can say there shouldn't be too much more undead weight to be added to this site and based on my analysis of the most recent release dates it doesn't seem to be any further development on Individual DVD releases since it has been over 2 years since an individual DVD release was ever released. While the loss of the DVD Boxset page was surprising to me I consider it an acceptable loss, but for this page because alot of episodes from the individual episodes come from different seasons then I would have to consider this an unacceptable loss because these details have no where else to go on Wikipedia and as long as the the Boxset details are kept trimmed down or removed from this page entirely then it would do good for the page entirely. It is also like saying that every release in a book series, especially with comics is fully unacceptable to Wikipedia which is a crude way to stir up a hornet's nest in my opinion. Besides at least it is not at or greater than 32KB. -71.59.237.110 (talk) 07:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - nothing here that can't be included in the episode or season lists. No need to repeat it here --T-rex 15:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as easily verifiable inoformation concerning a remarkably notable television series. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 16:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep:--SkyWalker (talk) 14:33, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why? A reason or reasons must be given to show this article meets appropriate Wikipedia guidelines and policies for existance. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 18:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: For any other DVD releases AfD, I would say "delete", but this article contains information on releases not mentioned elsewhere on Wikipedia. Give it some time and Scorpion and WP:SIMPSONS will probably make it a featured list. –thedemonhog talk • edits 20:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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