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The tale of mari and three puppies[edit]

The result was Speedy keep- Withdrawn by nominator. I now see the film to have had coverage in independant, reliable sources per Delicious carbuncle's link. --OZOO (Whaddya think, sirs?) 16:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:N- no significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. A single blog does not count, and nor does an offical website. PROD contested OZOO (Whaddya think, sirs?) 11:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• weak keep Most of the film coverage I've seen (like on the NY Times website) is a basic synopsis of the plot. However, the Taipei Times did go into a bit more detail with their review, which might indicate a bit more notability. If it is kept, I would suggest that the page is renamed according to WP:MOS. StephenBuxton (talk) 11:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• strong keep I resent the western cultural supremacy that led several admins flagging this article for deletion. First, it is about a movie and not "about a web site" as the first admin claimed. Second, it's not because this movie has not yet been released in your western society that it is not notable. This movie is based on a very well known, and touching true story that happened in Japan in 2004. If you could do a search in Japanese, you'd see the event has been discussed millions of times on Japanese web site. A google search on the Japanese title of the movie brings over 1 million results. A google search on the English title of the movie ("A Tale of Mari and Three Puppies") returns over 70,000 results. Also, this movie is the greatest hit in Japan last year and this year. So, it may not be notable to the western wikipedia admins, but please stop the western cultural supremacy.

Also, I resent the amazing wikipedia bureaucracy. A new article has no chance to go beyond a simple stub stage before getting assaulted by numerous AfD. I am not associated in any way with the movie nor its web site. I am not the author of the blog linked to. I have nothing to gain from the article. But one has to spend more time preventing an abusive deletion than contributing interesting content to wikipedia. This kind of abuse (including cultural abuse) is the reason why I spend so little time contributing to wikipedia: if I have nothing to gain, at least I can avoid wasting my time fighting bureaucracy. Go watch the movie! AugustinMa (talk) 14:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"western cultural supremacy" never been accused of that before! Nor adminship, incidentally.

"If you could do a search in Japanese, you'd see the event has been discussed millions of times on Japanese web site."- the importance of the event is not importantant. The article is about the movie.

"A google search on the English title of the movie ("A Tale of Mari and Three Puppies") returns over 70,000 results"- 11,100

"Also, this movie is the greatest hit in Japan last year and this year."-If it is, then it is most likely notable and I will withdraw my argument. Have you a source for this?

"I am not associated in any way with the movie nor its web site."- at no point did I say you were.

"I am not the author of the blog linked to." The important thing is not the author, but the fact that it is a blog, and fails WP:RS

"cultural abuse" It's not relevent to this AfD, but at what point did I abuse a culture? If an identical article was written about an English film, I would nominate it for deletion. --OZOO (Whaddya think, sirs?) 14:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• • • I think the first comment relates to the ((db-web)) tag added by User:Sceptre. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 15:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep a quick Google search provides lots of hits including this: "A Tale Of Mari And Three Puppies ruled the box office in Japan earning $2.55 million on 333 screens during its opening". Delicious carbuncle (talk) 15:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • After seeing this link, the film has notability, and I withdraw the nom. --OZOO (Whaddya think, sirs?) 16:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per carbuncle's research Sceptre ^(talk) 16:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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