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The result was delete. --Coredesat 01:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

VV Zeewolde[edit]

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Delete Fails WP:N, including notability guidelines for football clubs at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football. A non-notable Dutch football (sports?) club with no indication of where it stands in the league structure, if at all. Ytny (talk) 02:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. Ytny (talk) 02:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete according to the Dutch Wikipedia it's an amateur team [1] Smirnoff Black 03:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - the last I can find of them at RSSSF is that in 2004-05 they were a sixth level team, but the article itself looks like it implies they are now at fifth level (Amateur Tweede Kkasse). I'm unsure whether this passes the bar or not, so I'll abstain for now. If kept, of course, this article needs a major clean up. - fchd 05:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Should Marcel Boelens (their coach) be rolled into this nomination? He doesn't seem notable either through his association with this club or elsewhere........ ChrisTheDude 06:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I meant to nominate the Boelens article for AfD but I had to run out. I had originally PRODed this article but the tag was removed without explanation. The same thing happened to Boelens article, but the PROD has been restored on that, so that should take care of it. --Ytny (talk) 13:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete amature and very low level team. User:KRBN 08:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete not notable. Dave101→talk  15:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment From what is said above the club play at the fifth level in Dutch football, having presumably been promoted. What level do we go down to in The Netherlands for notability? Without knowing the cut off point as mentioned above it is not possible to vote with any degree of accuracy. ♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk 00:38, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Considering we don't including English clubs that haven't been above Conference, and the English league system is more organized than the Dutch, my opinion is that the fifth level in Holland isn't notable. And I had trouble finding any non-trivial English source about the club, even if it meets the football project's notability criteria, I don't think it meets WP:V.--Ytny (talk) 02:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • "Considering we don't including English clubs that haven't been above Conference"......erm, yes we do, we include clubs that have played in the top ten levels of the English league system (i.e. five below the Conference) - I think you might be thinking of the rule on players...... ChrisTheDude 06:57, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • You're right, I stand corrected. Ytny (talk) 17:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete way too amateur to be notable. --Angelo 14:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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