The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. v/r - T P 20:42, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vasile Olariu[edit]

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. No reason was given for contesting. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:22, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 12:35, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Web search indicates WP:ROUTINE mentions in Romanian football reports. Fails WP:GNG. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 23:16, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. He is now at Ukrainian Premier League club Oleksandria according to Soccerway, but he hasn't played for them in the league so still fails notability criteria. Argyle 4 Life^talk 12:52, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vasile Olariu played for Victoria Brăneşti in Romania's Liga I [1]. Now, he plays for Ukrainian Premier League's PFC Oleksandria. He already played in a fully pro league, so the deletion of this article is without sense. --razvanflorian (talk) 13:09, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While I don't see any sources to confirm that he has played in the Ukrainian Premier league yet, the fact that he has played in Liga I means he passes WP:NSPORT, and I am therefore prepared to withdraw the nommination. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:20, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - he played several Liga I matches for Victoria during the 2010–11 season. Article needs to be expanded, but it clearly passes NFOOTBALL. Jogurney (talk) 17:35, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Remains a clear delete for me. Just scrapes by on NFOOTBALL, apparently, but as per WP:NSPORTS, where NFOOTNALL lives:

"Please note that the failure to meet these criteria does not mean an article must be deleted; conversely, the meeting of any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept. These are merely rules of thumb which some editors choose to keep in mind when deciding whether or not to keep an article that is on articles for deletion, along with relevant guidelines such as Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources." [emphasis added]. Search for non-WP:ROUTINE WP:RS sources comes up empty, so non-notable. If you can find solid RS sources (not mentions in game reports, not listings in player directories, not routine player-leaves/player-joins this-or-that team notices, etc.), would be happy to review and perhaps change my view. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 00:03, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

- - I don't think he scrapes by NFOOTBALL at all (he made 27 appearances and scored 9 goals in Liga I), but in any case, I believe it would pass GNG with a little work. With minimal effort, I've added two references to the article that are more than routine match reports, and just going by Gazeta Sporturilor's site (Search results) it appears that there will be plenty of Romanian-language coverage of him. I've seen plenty of borderline cases, but this is not one of them. Jogurney (talk) 03:12, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.