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The result was delete. Tim Song (talk) 01:53, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

World hip hop[edit]

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This is a content fork from Hip hop music. I think this article should be deleted for the same reasons (it cannot be salvaged or effectively merged) that American hip hop was deleted in this AfD. Hoppingalong (talk) 14:25, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Agree and Delete per nom. Tarheel95 (talk) 15:49, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:07, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, but rename - I didn't have a !vote at the American hip hop article, but it's insane that there are maybe 20 <COUNTRY> hop hop articles, but no American hip hop article. Perhaps Canadian hip hop should have gone first; sorry if that angers some Canadians. This is an organizing page that is probably notable, but the current name makes it sound like a genre (sort of like "World music") rather than what it is, which is a discussion of the geographical variations of hip-hop.
  Hoppingalong: if you're going to nominate the rest of what look to be maybe two dozen articles, then do them either in one AfD, or at least in succession. I think you're going to get adhoc decisions on each one unless people understand they're all connected. Shadowjams (talk) 10:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - There really are several "American hip hop" articles, broken down into regions (East Coast hip hop, for example), so it is not like there is nothing there. I do get what you are saying and many of the country articles should be removed on notability grounds (I prodded Bahraini hip hop for just that reason). That is not exactly the same issue as there was with American hip hop and is with World hip hop, though. To summarize the American hip hop AfD, American hip hop was out because it caused a fork; hip hop music is inherently American (similar to if there was an article titled Cuban music & Cuban Cuban music, which would not be ok, though Cuban music in Miami might be ok as a second article, if notable). The World hip hop article seems to create the same fork, if not even worse. So, while I agree that we should only retain the articles for countries that have notably made their own way with hip hop music and all others should be dealt with in one notability AfD, this one shouldn't be part of that AfD. As an aside, the various country specific article titles all seem to confuse Hip hop with Hip hop music (as does World hip hop), too, but I think it safe to say that they refer actually to variations on hip hop music and that can be fixed though renaming the notable ones that remain. Hoppingalong (talk) 14:16, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I love hip hop but all these countries already have their own article. One huge article encasing them all isn't needed. Str8cash (talk) 19:28, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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