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Operator: Hiding T

Automatic or Manually Assisted: Automatic, supervised

Programming Language(s): AWB

Function Summary: Project banner tagging for WikiProject Comics and Wikipedia 1.0. Edit period(s) (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): Sort of daily, whenever I'm logged in. It would follow my editing pattern.

Edit rate requested: 10 edits per minute

Already has a bot flag (Y/N): N

Function Details: I will be using this account for some automated talk page tagging, to assist with WikiProject Comics and Wikipedia 1.0. Basically, I'd like to run like User:Kingbotk does, adding the comics project banner to untagged articles, automatically tag stub articles, and automate banner tagging to help with clean-up, for example where an article has a project wide template on the article page it could tag the project banner on the talk page to allow comics editors to better find the articles. We've also discussed automating other tasks. For example we've previously discussed renaming widely transcluded templates to widen their potential, for example ((superherobox)) to ((comics character)) or something similar, and the account could help facilitate things like that. STricken per below discussion. Hiding T 20:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC) Also, we've set up work groups within the project, and it would be useful to be able to tag the article talk pages appropriately through the project banner through a bot. Hiding T 15:00, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

• Is there something I've forgotten to do? Hiding T 15:00, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just post on Wikipedia:BOTREQfor wikiproject tagging?. as for your other request, we have template redirects for a reason. β^_command 16:28, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because we'd like to be able to do it ourselves to understand the process more and ensure we can keep up with what we are doing. I know why we have template redirects, but if we build a consensus otherwise why is that such a problem? I know the chemistry project have done similar things. Hiding T 16:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

there is a reason that we have redirects. users should not be making hundreds of edits just to bypass redirects. we have 12+ bots already who can do wikiproject tagging there is jut no reason for another when there isnt enough work for the current ones. β^_command 16:41, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Users aren't making 100s of edits to bypass redirects, thank you, and it isn't my fault if there are bots sitting idle. I'll just use AWB without the flag then, yes? Hiding T 16:58, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, all bots need to be approved even bots that are not flagged. your idea for the bot is to bypass redirects, which should not be done. β^_command 17:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My idea for the bot is not to bypass redirects. If that's an issue scratch it, forget I mentioned it. I find it odd, since I know other projects have deprectaed templates using AWB, but if you have decided that's not allowed, fine, I withdraw that. I would like to be able to automate the template woirk because I am currently doing it manually and it seems inane for me to do it manually when it could quite easily be automated, so can someone please explain to me the issue with me being allowed to run it automated to save me doing it manually. Hiding T 17:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

deprectaing templates and bypassing redirects are completely seperate issues. when deprectaing, the most common method is merging several templates together and changing parameter names. if the issue is just a re-naming of templates while keeping the parameter names the same, there is no need for changing the names. β^_command 17:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The idea was to merge two or three templates, but like I say, that's off the table for now. When we get the templates all set up we'll see where we are then. At this precise moment it is a moot point. Hope that helps solve that issue. Hiding T 17:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think there has been some mis-communication. lets see a 20 edit trial for each part of this request and please post diffs. β^_command 18:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do you mean, run it manually? Hiding T 18:12, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

get an admin to add you to the AWB check page. β^_command 18:23, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can do that bit myself. Hiding T 18:25, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Marvel Comics work group

Here are 15 edits (I gave it a list of 20 but 5 were already tagged so it skipped them) which tag the talk page of marvel related articles for the Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Marvel Comics work group: [1], [2],[3],[4],[5],[6],[7],[8],[9],[10],[11],[12],[13],[14],[15]. Hiding T 19:35, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Automatically tagging with ((comicsproj)) and assessing as a stub, 18 edits (miscounted two sandbox trials): [16],[17],[18],[19],[20],[21],[22],[23],[24],[25],[26],[27],[28],[29],[30],[31],[32],[33]. Hiding T 20:50, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Auto tagging, no assessment [34],[35],[36],[37],[38],[39],[40],[41],[42],[43],[44],[45],[46],[47],[48],[49],[50], seventeen edits, again I stopped it too early forgetting earlier edits I'd made. Hiding T 12:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Tagging for cleanup [51],[52],[53],[54],[55],[56],[57],[58],[59],[60],[61],[62],[63],[64],[65],[66],[67],[68],[69],[70]. Hiding T 13:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It looks good so far, however, in my experience, I've found that it is VERY helpful, to list what category caused you to tag the talkpage with a wikiproject tag, when doing that. Other than that, it looks like all went well to me. SQL^{Query me!} 20:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

•  Approved. β^_command 18:56, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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